As we transition with our rebuilding phase, I'm wondering if we have gone about it the wrong way around.
We have a great Home ground, we have great fans that will support the club, we have a world class training centre, we have the new constitution and Leagues Club to rival most others, We have the shiny new coach and assistant coach's, and we have a world class Halfback, with a new culture developing.
It appears that we have been checking off for some time all the ingredients required to have a winning club. This brings me to what I see as a major fault within our club.
It appears we are able to identify the players we wish to sign, there are many examples of that within our system right now, none better then Iongi, Lomax, Addo Carr and Walker. However there also appears to be a problem with getting classy players that are being courted by other teams over the line and sigining with our club. The 4 players I mentioned were not being courted by any other club.
So how do we fix it. If we are identifying where the club was falling behind with all of the above and we set about turning it around and fixing it, to the boards credit, then surely the same Board can see we are seriously lacking in the art of getting a quality player that other clubs want to join our squad.
What is it that is lacking in this area. Is it a lack of understanding of what makes the player tick, are possible recruits issues, fears, not being addressed during the negotiations, is it a stigma that players don't like our club, Is it the rookie coach might not be good, is it a lack of third party deals or investment clubs etc. Do the player managers not get on with our club. There must be something that is turning off potential recruits. Over the last couple of years we have lost so many players and potential coach's for that matter, that the club has identified as wanting or wanting to keep, and we havnt been able to get them accross the line.
So I do wonder who at our club is identifying the problem, and what needs to be done to turn this around. Over the next 12 months, we as a club have a huge war chest of salary cap $$ to be spent, but it won't matter if the club cannot sign the good 1st choice players they are targeting.
It makes me wonder, what our club would look like if we were to recruit say Gus Gould. Would that even be possible. I do wonder what type of $$ would it take to hire someone like him. We seem to be very light on in the reputation and signing power of our current head of football. I'd happily pay Gus Gould $2m a season to be our recruitment spokesperson, the man that makes the deal, that courts the new player. Surely someone of his experience and stature would be a crucial and club defining signing. Perhaps the very last piece of the Eels puzzle.
Im no fan of Mark O'Neill head of football operations, I have made that very clear. So how do we get the club to at least review what mistakes have been made or continue to be made that turns so many players away from us.
I think it's crucial for any future success, more so then any one player. We should be going for the best of the best people out there to be working on our contract negotiations and selling our vision to new recruit prospects. We search high and low for the best layers, then why don't we do that at Boss level, at management level.
Im not sure of whom we should even target if we were to replace Mark O'Neill, but i am of the strongest opinion that the club to move forward must as a matter of urgency delve very deep into what is going wrong at this level, and fix it. We have an oppurtunity with our war chest to really go after some serious talent right now,
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Getting played in a 2 horse race isn't a great look if there were multiple teams and multiple balls up in the air then ok.But basically what there saying is his HS coach pretty much was the difference.Gus and co didn't have to go back to the table and off more they just took there shot.
Were we dillusional to enter this race much like the Bennett saga we're we dillusional there too.Time to move on but I used a baseball analogy earlier whose our closer.
It doesn't matter, going to the biggest boss is common in many businesses LB. What it does prove though is that MON is not a decision maker in these processes. Something I been trying to get through you guys for a long time, remember me blogging about his title being wrong ie General Manager Football is misleading. HEAD OF FOOTBALL is fine in a sense of managing the building, but the decorating and furnishing is directed and done by a higher echelon.
So in your iteration are you just saying MoN is a glorified pen pusher and that's it Pops a paper weight of soughts who has no opinion around recruitment or decisions or thoughts about it.
If this is the case like your saying why not just hire a poster model at least those making the decisions have something good to look at.I'd suggest Hayley Davies I'm sure she'd close deals I'm sure of it 😂.
Youll understand when you see a pic of her.
I think you exagerate many points there Coryn, glorified penpusher? aren't we all? it maybe that he has a very good understanding of the pathways and the various coaches and is respected in that arena.
No opinion around recruitment or decisions. That is an assumption of negtivity on your part Coryn, he could be very vocal in that environment, but the buck doesn't stop with him. If Ryles does not want a certain player, he has to make an argument and win it, you cannot expect that he will. The roster is built by the coach and as it stands the coach seems quite happy with that arrangement and Mon's involvement.
The fact is that there are not leaks at Parra and Mon's obviously not the type to air dirty linen!
The negotiation is the weakness and this could be a weakness of the most skilled coaching administraters and that's why I wrote my blog on it. Horses for courses is natural part of business management. Coming from my money market background the aggresive dealers/traders who got things done, you would not feed administratively.
I'm just trying to clarify what your saying what you think MoN's role is ?
What is it do you see as his role is exactly.I'm not understanding what you think that is ?
Hence my response.
I used an analogy of Building Manager but not the authoriser of the decorations and furnishings. The building manager will look at the services, that are supplied, not initate the actual presentation. He may though come up with suggestions and recommendations notwithstanding.
The title GM Football implies an equality and in some cases a heirarchial manager over the coach, literally running the business end. I would suggest that Gould, Ponissi, do that, others are different Ikin was pushed out of Bronco's because of who was actually in charge. Delination of decision making can cross over in many organisations i.e. the GM Technology would respond to a needs request from a marketing sales eqivalent. The sales guy know what products he wants, the tech guy delivers.
It was always obvious to me that Mon was not in charge of Roster selection but managed the administration of it. A more suitable title could be argued as "Manager Football Administration"
His lack of autonomy cannot be better illustrated than the Galvin case where Issacc Moses is talking with Ryles and moves onto the Chairman....my guess the CEO Sarantinos would have been involved as well. These things can be very personal if people know people. In a different structure the Chairman may not be approachable on such a matter, then again Moses may have a personal relationship with him.....very obviously Mon is not in the picture at all but once the decision is made, his department will be doing the documentation.
My experience is personalties are always the difference in lot of demarcation type disputes.
Interesting as the Treasurer of a bank, the sales guys would come to me for pricing, no way I will tell them how to sell it, but being the arrogant prick I am I would probably say you can eccenuate a point of sale that would make it attractive. I designed option products to construct floors and ceilings on a loan product. That's why I got so annoyed the way options were ostrasized on here through the Brown saga. Nobody knew how to use them effectively.
If you want us to believe that you were treasurer of anything other than the local netball club, you'll need to stop talking in riddles.
Freshie stick to what you know, not what you don't know. If you don't like what i write, don't read it. People that know me, know my history and I have nothing to prove to you.
Sorry, I should have been a bit clearer. What the fuck does 'eccenuate' mean?
Coryn I know this was for Pops, but I was curious and did some research. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the buck did stop with Mark O'Neil as the General Manager of Football. His role is overseeing the football department, including recruitment, player welfare and training facilities. He is responsible for list management and is supposed to look at the big picture, the long term viability of the team / player list. He reports to the CEO Jim Sarantinos.
Now what is really interesting is BEN ROGERS he is the Head of Recruitment, and part of his duties are listed as contract negotiations.
At the Eels we have a 4 man Recruitment and retention committee made up of Jim Sarantinos, Mark O'Neil, Ben Rogers and Jason Ryles. All recruitments must go through the committee, no one person is able to act on their own, and all 4 bring differing personal angles to the committee. ie Ryles whom and type of player he needs now, Mark O'Neil is supposed to keep an eye on the salary cap and list management with a long term view over time. Ben Rogers is apparently the man to find the player and is listed as the contract negotiator. I would assume with Mark O'Neil as Manager he would be participating in the negotiations as well. This part is a bit murky in finding the right information.
Having said all that, I'm none the wiser if there are multiple negotiators / closers at one time or just one. But whom ever is doing this part, is perhaps not the best in the business at this role, and the club need to audit this process, having lost so many players at the last moment over the last couple of years.
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