Optical Illusions and The Modern Rookie Way

 

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One of my favorite optical illusions is the Ames Room illusion. And there is another one doing the rounds in the NRL world. 

That the modern rookie is the "Modern Way" and more likely to be in touch with the modern game - especially highly-touted apprentices such as the Melbourne-Rooster schooled Ryles, the Cronulla-Slater-Origin schooled Hannay and the Bennett touted Dean Young. The fresh, new car smell.

But why is that so?

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Sure, most of the mainstream media sing this tune and the big names - not unlike the Pied Piper of Hamelin singing about the next young hot things in a modern rehash of the box-office smash hit Barbie World.

And thus present our club with a tantalizing temptation of apparantly reputable NRL-talent. In a sense, second-prize on the reputation stakes after losing the most reptuable big fish in Bennett. In some way, the appearance of less risk. Than an left-field choice in someone like Brian McDermott who is barely known in the NRL world, despite clearly being the most competent and successful by a long way.

But why else? Because Bellamy, Slater, Bennett and the likes of Wade Graham think they'll make great head coaches in the future?  We've seen what's happened to highly-touted rookies that Bennett like Price and the recently sacked JD. 

Let's look at facts, not what people say.

Head coaches make the decisions. Assistants need to get sign off on what they do. Head coaches, like CEOs cop the responsility and blame, not their assistants or assistants of the assistants which is the modern way of NRL these days.

Since 1967, when unlimited tackles ended that saw the birth of the modern game, there have been 58 titles up for grabs. Guess what percentage of those titles were won by rookie head coaches with less than five years of head coaching experience?

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In the interim, cast your mind back to October 2010.

"Stephen Kearney brings a wealth of experience as a (assistant) coach and player to the club and is universally respected and admired in Australia, New Zealand and Britain," so said the then Parramatta Eels CEO Paul Osborne  (NZ Herald)

Reputation and appearances - optics - at its finest.

In 2010, when the Rookie Kearney inherited the Eels they were in a better position on the ladder at 12th than they currently sit at 16th - equal last at round 17. The following year in 2011, the Eels dropped to 14th. Still better than we are right now. Then in 2012, Kearney's Eels finally hit rock bottom to 16th place and a wooden spoon with the worst defence in the competition - matching where we currently sit

Not long after we punted on another well-regarded Manly and Melbourne schooled rookie in Bradley Arthur from the 2014 season for over ten years. Again it was meant to herald a New Era of Melbourne like success. Is that what we mean by the Modern Way? The one we just got rid of. Do it all again?

We are a declining force with 11 of our typical top 17 between 30-32 next year. We might be third for possesion and kings of offloads but most things have fallen off the cliff. Defence: 3rd (2020), 4th (2021), 8th (2022), 11th (2023),17th (2024). Attack: 3rd (2019), 9th (2020), 7th (2021), 6th (2022), 5th (2023), 14th (2024).  Yardage: 2nd (2019), 1st (2020), 3rd (2021), 2nd (2022), 4th (2023), 12th (at R15, 2024). Even an experienced coach in Arthur could not stop the rot.

Just because there's more rookies now than we can poke a stick at - Ciraldo, Webster, Payton, Benji - doesn't make it Modern. It doesn't mean they're more in touch with the modern game - or a better coach in modern times.

Again why are they the modern way and more in touch with the modern game? Is it because they're younger and inexperienced? Like a young, P-plate driver that has yet to learn the mistakes more experienced drivers have made? Or because they were schooled by more experienced mentors? It makes little sense, really.

Sure we have had some traumas with some experienced non-rookie coaches - like Michael Hagan in 2007-2008 (5th and 11th on the ladder) or Ricky Stuart in 2013 (last wooden spoon). But you could easily argue our most successful eras post 1967 have been under more experienced coaches - Brian Smith, Jack Gibson, Terry Fearnley, and Daniel Anderson who did fairly well in a short stint including the almost 2009 Hayne fairytale after throwing out the failing gameplan mid-season.

Some will point to Rookie Ciraldo as doing okay or so too Payton. The Cowboys and the Dogs are different clubs. Not just because of Gus or their diehards in the board. We also don't have many hands-on business suggar daddies or a few diehard mulit-millionaire or billionaire businessmen in the closet.  And the Origin-littered roster of young guns that Bellamy got in his first few rookie years certainly helped: Billy Slater, Cameron Smith, Ryan Hoffman, Dallas Johnson, Antonio Kaufusi, Jeremy Smith, Cooper Cronk, and Greg Iglis. The bottom line is P-plater rookie coaches have always existed. In good systems and usually money behind them they can work out - like Bellamy, Bennett, Robinson, Hasler. 

It's not a Modern Idea or some New. Far from it. It's retro if anything. Sure, every head coach was once a rookie. The first premiership winner of 1908 was a rookie captain-coach. Every coach that won a title was a born human and breathing.

 

1967 onwards

So back to modern history, from 1967. Since then there have been 58 titles for grab.

Since 1967, only twelve coaches have won a grand final with less than five years of head coaching experience (12/58 at 21%). So most, almost eighty percent, of grand finals in the Modern Era have been won by coaches with at least five years of head coaching experience.

Ivan Cleary took 15 years to win his first title in 2021 (Panthers). Bellamy took 5 years to win his first grand final (stripped) back in 2007 (Storm). Bennett took 5 years to win his first title with an Orgiin-littered Broncos (1992) and 23 for his last title (Dragons, 2010). Jack Gibson took six years to win his first title (Easts, 1974) and 11 years for his first with the Eels (1981-83).

So what you might ask? What does all that goobly gook mean? It means that if we're backing a rookie with less than five years of experience we're backing them to do better than Jack Gibson, Wayne Bennett, and Craig Bellamy. Good luck with that, considering our current circumstances. Maybe they will. But there is no evidence. None. Nada.

 

2003 onwards

It gets worse for rookies if we go more Modern.

Since 2003, only two of the 21 titles have been won by coaches with less than five years of head coaching experience. (2/21 at 9.5%). Trent Robinson (2013, Roosters) who also have two years experience in Super (Parisan based Catalans like Kevin Walters before him). The other was the last Paul Green who won it in his second year (2015, Cowboys).

 

 

 Grand Final Winning Head Coaching Experience

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Summary

 

  • Since 1967 over the last 57 years, almost 80% (45/52) of grand finals were won by head coached with at least five to twenty five years of head coaching experience.

 

  • Between 1967-2002, almost 73% (20/37) of grand finals were won by head coached with at least 5 years of head coaching experience; 5-14 years.

 

  • Between 2003-2023, over the last 21 years, over 90% (19/21) of grand finals were won by head coaches at least 5 years of head coaching experience; 5-24 years.

 

  • Since 1967, there have been four rookies to win a title in their first year of head-coaching either in the NRL or Superleague. Ricky Stuart (2002 Roosters), Hagan (2001 Knights), Gus Gould (1988 Dogs), Leo Nosworthy (1969 Balmain). All four inherited teams that had been in grand finals in the last two to fours years (Knights premiers in 1997; Dogs, 1985 Premiers). All four inherited good teams that had success over the previous four years’ leading up to the rookie takeover with none over those four teams over 16 years ranked lower than 7th. 

 

  • Since 1967, only 36% (71/198) of head coaches survive to 100 games (4-5 years)

 

 

Ironically, the easiest time for rookies to win a title was in the older form of the game from 1908 in the world of rookie captain-coaches and between 1967-2002. It's been worse for rookies since 2003. 

The Theory of the Rookie Coach being the Modern Way and thus more in touch with the modern game is not based on any evidence. It's a flawed illusion. Basically in the modern era, though it might not be sexy, experienced coaches are the ones that usually win championships having between 5-20 plus years of head coaching experience.

There is also the Goldfish theory. And those who pay scant regard to the lessons of history, in some way are bound to repeat their lessons.

 

 

 

 

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  • Great read HOE, some really nice stats there.

  • I don't think I have seen it laid out any better than that HOE. 

    Brilliantly done mate.

    • Thanks LB and BEM, gents.

      If we go rookie they'll probably need around 5 years, say 100 games as a head coach to start getting a handle on it. Most head coaches don't last that long. Since 1967, only a tad over a third (36%) last that long. It's a hard gig!

      Even Bellamy the shining example of the one-club career coach" with all the advantages he had - business backing, a team littered with Origin talent (Billy Slater, Cameron Smith, Ryan Hoffman, Dallas Johnson, Antonio Kaufusi, Jeremy Smith, Cooper Cronk, and Greg Iglis) and a club that won a title recently (1999, Anderson) - needed five years to win his first grand final (stripped).

  • Hanny/Ryles working under McDope , Sarantinos and O'Neill ? A rookie coach should feel blessed working under the guidance and expertise of these people . 

    • As usual Hoe you have make people think.

      Essentially none of the things you say can be disputed or argued as wrong.

      You can obviously and this is the "shame" cannot go for a rookie coach unless exceptional circumstances prevailed.

      Parra should have no such illusioms of having an exceptional Rookie available to its cause.

      So we are left with the very obvious decision of not having a "rookie" coach.

      Well what do we have as a denominator, say 5 years experience as a head coach, but that can be misleading.

      Now if you do your analysis here we can conclude that we need a rookie who we identify as capable of becoming a head coach over a period of some time 2/3 years using the Bennett Dolphin model, but first of all we want him to be an assistant and be mentored into the role. Whether Kristian Wolfe or JD meet this criteria in the Bennett model is still subjective.

      So who does this role of mentoring and management, its not an NRL thing coincidently but someone who can take the knocks. the media and the goodwi[l of the players and their needs, he also has to be capable of cutting and cleaning to a point where he will not be given guilt trips for taking hard decisions. We need this person to be a "leader".

      So out of the applicants Parra has had for this role we have Madge, McDermott, Bennett, Chieka.

      The analysis as already excluded Bennett (outside of our control but an obvious target). Madge who is subjectively not a leader with the type of respect and management that we are looking for, but maybe evolving (he is allowed to you know) and the so called left field applicants, Chieka has gone, opportunity lost i.e. as Bennett was).

      This leaves us with McDermott who we are not even sure is still available?

      McDermott is the now the obvious choice if the Parra selection process wants to assess this whole process in a constructive way. If they cannot appoint anyone, leave the caretaker coach in place till the end of the year and open up applicants again with the specific values Sarantinos made in his CEO address of what we are looking for, quiet simply if they choose a rookie that statement by the CEO is false and misleading and not attaining any of the values he has estewed.

      • Thanks gentlemen.

        Frankie, I'm hoping one day you'll end up on our footy board, mate!

        Pops, great comments mate. I really enjoy your big picture head and agree with most of it.

        I don't know if McDermott would still consider the role (haven't heard news for over a week on this). Probably. But I suspect our board never really considered him - too left field; anti-conservatism; anti-safety-in-optical reputations. The only silver lining is that McDermott may have dodged a bullet for his own personal career. It's sad isn't it.

        I'm starting to suspect the goal is a reputable NRL "club career coach", after we lost premier man, Bentley Bennett. A shining example is Bellamy of the first-tenure one-club career coach.

         But, they're working covert so they could change their mind without prying eyes ...

  • Superb HOE; shame the powers that be don't see this for what it is. Instead they'll listen. / take advice from MON.

    • i'm not even sure of that Mitchy, MON arguably should be on the outer as well. I understand why he is there, there is no one else? but are they listening to him? .....Hoe's analysis implies they might just like things "bright and shiny" and ignoring MON. I suspect  that MON could have some problems asserting himself, if he hasn't the disgraceful situation we are now in with regard to R&R falls back into his lap. Contrary to what you hear on this site the man is not a complete moron, there are things in this process we do not understand.

      • Pop's you have hit it on the head; our retention has been putrid since his involvement and that 5 man committee. You could almost say the club has been allowed to fail. We have witnessed players / managers hold out (as they can) in the media with Gutho / Matterson / Brown / Moses etc. along with losing key kids from junior reps to others and throw in not filling the quota of top 30. 

        I am a cynic and believe the new coach will also be about $$$$$

    • Thanks, Mitchy. It's hard to know how and what they're really thinking. We'll find out soon enough...

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