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                    Sir Col "THE NODDY MUSHROOM" > Brett Allen June 2, 2020 at 4:12pm

                    I only get on the bottom for the best of them Brett - and yours is not a female name.

                    Stressed are we young padawan?

                    What is bitter and cynical in my reply above?

                     
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        Prof. Daz > Brett Allen June 4, 2020 at 8:25am

        Yeah, nah, Brett
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      Magpie > SuperEel 22 June 1, 2020 at 10:00am

      As much as I'd be a Sanders man, as Brett pointed out, the very political structure of the US means that it's difficult if not impossible for even a President to affect real change. Remember the feeling of hope and real change that was supposed to come with Obama?  US has chugged along despite Trumps leadership. One man aint going to fix it.
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      Frank The Tank > SuperEel 22 June 3, 2020 at 10:45pm

      He is too radical, he is too extreme.
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    Prof. Daz > Brett Allen June 4, 2020 at 8:25am

    Well said, Brett. We could say Trump is the symptom of that failed State. The perfect production of a corrupt, morally bankrupt social order. 
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  Sir Col "THE NODDY MUSHROOM" June 1, 2020 at 10:08am

  Totally F@#KED as long as the Domecrats keep trying to discredit Trump regardless of what damage they do to their own people and the country.

  These riots are NOT a spontaneous occurrence - they are well orchestrated for one reason only.
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    Brett Allen > Sir Col "THE NODDY MUSHROOM" June 1, 2020 at 10:36am

    Yes, the riots are orchestrated no question, but they can only be so because of very real underlying social tensions in America. This isn't a political problem, its a social problem, and I honestly don't see an answer under the current US political institutions.

    I have some small experience of this. About 12 years ago I was with some friends in inner city St.Louis the week after it had been named America's most dangerous city. I'll never forget been driven through black gang territory in the inner city and seeing a 40 something old black woman pulling out a 9mm and pointing it at the dozen white faces in the van staring back at her in astonishment. Scared the hell out of me. 

    America's system was / is a wonderful system, however the institutions themselves, the Presidency, Congress, the Supreme Court have become gods unto themselves. These institutions no longer serve America's interest anymore. America has outgrown its own Constitution, has outgrown the concept of state's rights, has outgrown the Bill of Rights, in particular the 2nd Amendment, it has outgrown Republicanism, (the style of democracy not the political party), it is simply become too unwieldly now to ever affect meaningful change, the only answer is to tear it down and completely rebuild it from the foundations up.

    Like I said, I won't hold my breath.
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      Sir Col "THE NODDY MUSHROOM" > Brett Allen June 1, 2020 at 12:24pm

      Ignorance is not bliss Brett.

      You are clearly stating the problem without realising what you are saying.

      Segregation has never been resolved in America - never can be as long as we have Black and White.

      Multi culturism has never worked and when one group were the original slaves they will always be disadvantaged.

      Just look at Australia - so many different ideaologies all in the same box.

       
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        Brett Allen > Sir Col "THE NODDY MUSHROOM" June 1, 2020 at 1:41pm

        Yes, but America's philosophical divisions are much deeper than skin colour Col, certainly much more than any such divisions in Australia.

        Gun control, health care, industrial relations, tax policy, foreign policy, states rights just to name a few are areas that Americans are deeply divided in a way we here in Australia simply aren't. Race relations is huge, but none moreso than any of those other areas, its just more obvious when it explodes the way it has.

        What is astounding about America is how points of view can be so polarised. You walk around any major US city, and from neighbourhood to neighbourhood, street to street, even from one side of the street to the other, opinions can be the complete opposite. If you live on one sideof the street you have one point of view, and only that point of view, if you live on the other you often the polar opposite point of view. It is so stark, its insane.

         
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          Sir Col "THE NODDY MUSHROOM" > Brett Allen June 1, 2020 at 2:15pm

          LMFAO Brett.

          Here is where you failed :  Gun control, health care, industrial relations, tax policy, foreign policy, states rights just to name a few are areas that Americans are deeply divided in a way we here in Australia simply aren't. Race relations is huge, but none moreso than any of those other areas, its just more obvious when it explodes the way it has.

          And do you really believe there are no polarised points of view in Oz? Go look at last weekends "illegal" rallies against Scumboy and how he conflicts with the States approach to Corona.

          What about our fantastic Race relations that never leave the negative news reporting?