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        Kramerica > Prof. Daz June 4, 2020 at 11:51pm

        

        My point is that violence solves nothing - violence for, against, with or in the name of blacks, whites, yellows and any other color (American spelling) you choose to nominate is unacceptable.

        That's not a point that makes me sound like a Nazi, or invincibly ignorant. You've completely missed my very simple point. I don't disagree with anything you have said, or are argueing. I don't deny black systematic racism for a minute. I simply don't believe violence does the cause any favours whatsoever and ultimately does far more harm than good. That has been proven to be correct over many decades and it will be proven to be correct again in this instance - that may be unsatisfactory to you (and me) but it doesn't change the fact that nothing will change as a result of what is happening right now.

        I have lived in America as well. I still work in the US around 6 months of the year and have been doing so for 20 years. My business works exclusively for a US company. I understand American culture.

        There's no need to suggest that I'm ignorant Daz - this isn't an arguement that can be won or lost. I am absolutely, utterly convinced however that non violent mass protest would achieve so much more than what we are witnessing right now - it may even encourage a few elites who actually have the power to lobby government and actually achieve something to get involved. Won't happen though.

         
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          Prof. Daz > Kramerica June 5, 2020 at 2:13pm

          

          Fair points. Kram. 
          I agree violence rarely solves anything. Though violence as a reaction can certainly tell us a whole group has given up on non-violent solutions. With that thought in mind, what should be made of the violence? Does straight condemnation imply an easy acquisence about the conditions the violence reflects? That's my larger question. Put differently, yes we can condemn violence, but stopping at condemnation  without going on to give serious consideration to the conditions that led to it would be to let critique of those conditions off the hook. I have no issue with anyone condemning the violence if they then admit the underlying conditions are real and need to be tackled. 
          
          Apologies for the ignorance comment. Typed too fast. I was though thinking that I have seen so many comments that find some black on white crime and then falsely equate that with the situation blacks have found themselves in living in the US. The stats tell a different story. I think we are white washing of the problem. One can rebut that by metaphors like the Nazi who points to a Jewish tomato seller over charging him, but that metaphor of scale might not always hit home. But scale is the issue
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            Kramerica > Prof. Daz June 5, 2020 at 3:01pm

            

            Agree wholeheartedly mate.

            My story wasn't actually meant to be a tit-for-tat black on white violent crime story. I love that (albeit horrific) story because the four heroes were black. Some people are good and some aren't and skin colour has no bearing on it. Hate is hate. Love is love.

            Imagine how many more people would come out if the protests were guaranteed peacefull and the people knew there was no threat of violence. They could get 2 million at Central Park no problem and 500k in Sydney (probably alot more). I'd be there along with zillions others like me. The closest I've ever seen to something like this was Live Aid '85 - where the global community literally united - one of the great spectacles of my life. It's a pipe dream I know - but how good would it be . . . . . . . . . . 

            Take care mate :)
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    Frank The Tank > Prof. Daz June 4, 2020 at 2:57pm

    

    These "peaceful" demonstrations as the lefty media are calling them, are nothing more than riots now....no matter what the cause there's no excuse for this carnage.

    The main culprits of these fake demonstrations are ANTIFA - the vehicle the left use to incite civil unrest and rioting. Pallets of bricks and weapons being dropped off in strategic places in the dead of night so that these so called peaceful demonstrators can pickup next day and destroy property and hurl at police. 
    Yep only the left could defend these pieces of shit.
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      Princess Tes > Frank The Tank June 4, 2020 at 4:48pm

      

      Franky do you have any prison tatts. You remind me of my best mate . Biker. Reel smart in the know is sayin the same thing as you. Hes got the hottest Swatsticker tattoo .. top guy . Lefties made his life hell. God bless you!! 
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        Frank The Tank > Princess Tes June 4, 2020 at 8:43pm

        

        Yeah matter of fact I do Princess....

        I've got one on my old fella and it says
        Antidisestablishmentarianism.

         
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            Kramerica > Princess Tes June 5, 2020 at 3:05pm

            

            Tes has probably got a bigger one . . . . 
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      Magpie > Frank The Tank June 4, 2020 at 7:16pm

      

      https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-no-intelligence-antifa-weekend-...

      FBI part of the conspiracy to?

      Business Insider is hardly a lefty publication.

      

      FBI 'has no intelligence' indicating antifa was linked to weekend violence in the George Floyd prot…

      The FBI and other federal agencies have warned, however, that far-right groups will try to incite violence in the George Floyd protests.
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        Frank The Tank > Magpie June 4, 2020 at 8:46pm

        

        Yes mate

        Theres a reason Trumps DOJ is investigating the FBI, CIA and DOJ - they've been politicised and used for political reasons. They are trying to clean out the joint - so yeah they are corrupt.
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      Prof. Daz > Frank The Tank June 4, 2020 at 8:11pm

      

      Bullshit Frank. It's already been shown the antifa have on many occasions been far right groups posing as  antifa. And I mean documented fakery. 
      But no worries, you never met a fact you couldn't shove to the right