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                    Hell On Eels > Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve June 3, 2020 at 6:11pm

                    Thanks Wiz, likewise. Nothing like a good debate, mate. I think it's healthy to disagree on things, too and talk about it. You're a very intelligent poster, so it's always a pleasure. 

                    PS: I'm a Aussie-Euro-wog, and also have an Asian wife, a stunner in my eyes, and she has promised to not walk out if I ever get into trouble or we are penniless. Only if there's another woman! So, not all Asians are the same. 
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              Electric Eel > Bourbon Man June 2, 2020 at 7:12pm

              

              Perhaps the word "curfew" menas just that and that is exactly what they have been instructed to enforce?  EVERYONE aside from Law Enforcement off the streets! No dount the media have been seen on many instance to be worsening the situation and they just want to shut it down.
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                SuperEel 22 > Electric Eel June 3, 2020 at 2:49pm

                

                Media are permitted to be out during curfew. Their own First Amendment dictates that.
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          Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve > Bourbon Man June 2, 2020 at 6:08pm

          I did not see what happened to this reporter . Can anyone give a top line summary ?  The ultra short clip seems to show police telling people to move on and then they charged the defiant? 
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            Electric Eel > Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve June 2, 2020 at 8:10pm

            HOE, why is your post not open for reply.  Perhaps, it might just be as simple that African American Criminals and Hispanic Criminals are 4 times more likely to produce a firearm, other weapon or life endangering violence when engagde by Police becasue of their up bringing or circumnstances?  
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              Hell On Eels > Electric Eel June 2, 2020 at 8:22pm

              

              Electric Eel, Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't conclude that white criminals produce firearms less (though they may feel safer).

              How many US mass shooters and serial killers are black compared to whites? 

              However, the trend is certainly worsening for non-whites. It does suggest worsening bias.
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                Electric Eel > Hell On Eels June 2, 2020 at 9:32pm

                

                This is not about serial  or mass killers and yes I take your point in that regard. This is about every day crime.  Big difference. Again, a hell of a lot of this comes back to Americas bulshit gun laws.

                 
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            Bourbon Man > Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve June 3, 2020 at 11:21am

            FYI
            
            https://youtu.be/jBPJNohU7xE
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            SuperEel 22 > Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve June 3, 2020 at 2:52pm

            They were peacefully protesting. They weren't advancing on the police at all. They were standing there. The cops then fired tear gas and rubber bullets before charging at protesters, the media included. It was all so Trump could get his photo op outside a church that did not give their permission for him to be there. The police also tear gassed the clergy from that church. The First Amendment in the US Constitution permits freedom of the press and freedom of speech. For police to then start beating camera men and reporters is a violation of the law.

            By the way, those aren't really rubber bullets. They're steel slugs wrapped in plastic. They aren't non-lethal, they're less lethal. They're supposed to be fired at the ground to bounce into the legs of protesters, instead police are firing them at head height, putting people in hospital and making others go blind. 
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  Hell On Eels June 2, 2020 at 7:41pm

  

   

  Wiz, I had a look at stats you shared on US crime figures, by race. I think they actually suggest the bias is increasing against coloured people in the US, if you look more closely.

  If you look at it in terms of population numbers, African Americans are more than four times more likely than a white coloured person to being shot and killed by the police, and it's been getting been consistently and progressively getting worse since 2017. Same for Hispanics. But, it's improving for the majority population (whites). 

  Bear in mind, the autopsy on the Floyd case has also been ruled a homocide by asphyxiation.

  So that suggests there could very well be bias, as many African Americans will tell you, based on their personal experiences, even well educated ones and ones in respectable professions.

  Including, Burbon's wife, who can account for many cases of being prejudiced by police.

  The other thing is, humans are biased! Whether it's ideological, racial, value systems, or other tribal differences such as say views on footy teams. It's natural. It takes a lot to transcend bias, in reality.

  Houston, we have a problem. And it seems to be getting worse.

  

   Getting shot to death by police.

   

  As an aside:

  The above calculations were based on figures from  https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by... and then extrapolated to reflect it in terms of population numbers. Say for example, African Americans were almost six times (5.6) less the population. So their figures were multiplied by 5.6.

   

  

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