https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/1608091715833/footy-concussions
Very interesting and tragic. Featuring parras Ray Price and Brett Horsnell.
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"But I thought you loved ugly Petes "innovations"?
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"All this doesn’t prove the game is “broken,”...agreed. The overpaced, fatigue riddled ref-a-thon points blitz that hurts my eyes & feelings is what proves to me the game is broken.
I would hazard that Ugly Pete pushed that other guy (can't remember…"
I would hazard that Ugly Pete pushed that other guy (can't remember…"
"Hoey, as you know I am not a stats man but what you outlined in considerable detail is outstanding.
I read your "death zone" notes early in the season and have been quoting them regularly since then to both Parra and other club supporters.
I think…"
I read your "death zone" notes early in the season and have been quoting them regularly since then to both Parra and other club supporters.
I think…"
"Yeah Anasta said we got him for a good deal. Really could be anything. But also could be more than letting on as when talking about him he was in protective mode as many were knocking the signing so Anasta was saying all these things to Parra fans…"
"I see a few things to take out of this.
Firstly, the players complaining they are not enjoying it, a portion of Melbourne players mentioned how they are hating football. Now is it because of the rules or because they are losing like never before?…"
Firstly, the players complaining they are not enjoying it, a portion of Melbourne players mentioned how they are hating football. Now is it because of the rules or because they are losing like never before?…"
"I remember when we signed Pezet, one of the journos on NRL360 quizzed Anasta on how much we paid for Pezet, Anasta said we got him ridiculously cheap, my guess is $300 - $350k."
"Some of the points made sit in a bin of self justification....
R&R sits with who again?
Now Russell looked really good last year and we were all disappointed to lose him to Perth, that doesn't stop the current judgements, but it is handy.
Will…"
R&R sits with who again?
Now Russell looked really good last year and we were all disappointed to lose him to Perth, that doesn't stop the current judgements, but it is handy.
Will…"
"I do not believe we would be paying 400k for Pezet.....it was said at the time it was rediculously cheap, my guess 250?
and yes it is a guess because no one other than those that "count" will know the truth, especially not the garbage journalists…"
and yes it is a guess because no one other than those that "count" will know the truth, especially not the garbage journalists…"
"two players the Eels have spent years & money retaining & developing into the 'worst centre pairing....hmmm, perhaps not the flex Daz thought it was...he is determined to defend the status quo in head office...just like Hoe
I got a "Mod note" for…"
I got a "Mod note" for…"
"Yeah he did...Cupping Vlandys nuts everyday isn't that confusing"
"I like PVL for his innovation...I can't even LB....you do realise that it is Ugly Petes fucking "innovative innovation tinkering" that have made the game so damn....wait....you know this....what the hell dude"
"No mention of a poll, he was saying from contacts he has that work for the NRL. He would have people he knows personally that he talks to."
"I think something that isn't mentioned is momentum swings these 2 players can swing momentum with there involvement alone they also free up other players also with the attention they no doubt garner.
These mentioned things can be had in attack or…"
These mentioned things can be had in attack or…"
"So Daz, your attack on posters with criticisms of R&R is identifying quite a few Eels players - who have been recruited or retained by the Eels - as amongst the worst in the league for contribution to their team?
And your closing statement is by…"
And your closing statement is by…"
"I see it very similar to you, LB.
When you have a roster hole that needs filling, you fill it with the best available player you can - of course with due diligence on them as a player / person.
Not big on blocking paths for juniors unless they are…"
When you have a roster hole that needs filling, you fill it with the best available player you can - of course with due diligence on them as a player / person.
Not big on blocking paths for juniors unless they are…"
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Ray Price sounded so fried when he was speaking. My young bloke wants to play league next year, jury is still out for me if I let him.
Shit poppy, that was a bit harsh. Feel free to have a crack at me, but taking a dig at the intelligence of my son is a bit low.
My earliest memory of the eels is my old man making me watch the 86 GF. When pricey and crow were chaired off, my old man was crying. So, either dad love them, or he had a horrible foreboding of the priemership drought to come :)
Concussions were poorly understood in Ray's day. Given the era and position he played in, he likely had a number of concussions, especially when you take into the fact players like Matty Johns said he had about 10 or so through his career.
But concussions aren't the biggest issue here. The biggest issue is repeated sub-concussive impacts. Those hits that rattle you but don't give you a complete concussion. It's like a boxer taking small jabs throughout a fight. The more of those they take the higher chance of a KO. What Dr. Omalu found was that those repeated minor head traumas had more of an impact on later quality of life than the larger, more infrequent hits.
I do know that the NRL is actually seen as one of the better concussion managers in professional sport. Their HIA system and protocol is seen as one of the most stringent and most closely abides by the recommendations from medical professionals. It's also why I don't think we'll see a class action against the NRL. Unlike the NFL, as far as we know, the NRL has tried to address the long term impacts of concussions as soon as they became aware of them.
What would you change poplet?
Maggie, Both Ray and Brett Kenny need a Swahili interpreter on hand at all times.