Pretty interesting comments, he starts talking around 49 minutes in
You need to be a member of 1Eyed Eel to add comments!
This reply was deleted.
More stuff to read
"Coryn, the Eels lack super fast centres and so, true, they don't attack from the backfield like Cowboys or Dolphins. But ensuring you make your 40 and kicking to a corner if you haven't ran 60 metres by play two is simply stock play for almost every…"
"All true Coryn. My only point was that it's false to assert BT would not have developed at the Eels because the team defense sucks. As you note Moses got better and our defense wasn't great! But also, as noted, by the logic of negation Talagi should…"
"No, Talagi played FG at Eels in 2024 and announced in August 2024 he had signed with Panthers. Ryles was hired July 2024, so it's a stretch to say "Talagi left under Ryles".
Don't forget JR was working af the Storm in 2024 until the October 2024…"
Don't forget JR was working af the Storm in 2024 until the October 2024…"
"Again, Coryn, can you point to evidence of this "same style". It can't just be "similar results", as there are as many ways to lose as to win. You're 3rd paragraph is hard to understand. Are you saying the style is throw it around or that the style…"
Replies
They had a higher average set distance, however with better completion, Eels actually topped them in total run meters
Yeah but the Cowboy metres, while Taumololo and Mikaele gained metres, it was all their slippery players like Purdue, Dearden and Drinkwater that made the metres for them by evading tackles etc...
But I agree about the other forwards dominating us in those other games, which creates space behind the ruck for the fast 9s and 1s to run into.
Coryn, we scrapped against the Cows and hung in there; we also made less errors from memory and this is key; all the wins we had came from less errors. Hang in there; less errors....
💯 but we've tucked the ball away while doing so.
Thats actually smart with the injuries we have hanging in sometimes will steal you a game or 3 and that's exactly what it did against the Cows.
Melbourne this week if someone isn't on Harry Grant this week there needs to be an inquiry but you can bet Melbourne are coming right down the hey diddle diddle.
We've won every game we completed at over 80% this year. And while the Cowboys set completions were only 71% against us, we have actually completed far worse twice this year (63% and 64%) and both times we conceded 50.
What I don't get is no one but no one is criticising JR for a style of play that the last coach was ostracised for.Not only is he getting a pass here we have the worst defense in the comp leaking at an nrl record type rate,we also don't have the players to play that way but we are still a well coached side I've red on here.
Now think about that for minute I did have to have a quite chuckle to myself about that one.
Coryn, you claim BA was "ostracized" for the "same style of play" that JR is coaching but copping no flak about.
Yet the premise there is that BA and JR are in fact coaching the same "style of play". You have not established that assumption.
Maybe you have a point, maybe you don't. But you have to establish not assume key premises.
In what way are the styles the same? What is the evidence for the styles being the same?
Yes Daz and I will put in another way Coryn.....easier enough to do btw
Your talking about poor defence in general with BA, no cover (except if DB was doing it) no scramble. Regularly overlapped, wingers could not mark up etc.....
Now the criticism with JRL comes from the middle and the edge......we do have cover defence and we do scramble well. Goal line defence went backward and then Ryles lifts it back into priorities. Our best defensive forward was Hopgood and up untill his injury Riley Smith was the line speed. Our edge forwards have limited lateral tackling ability, that said we only need a couple of misses off the edge and then the runaways start.
JR had this right when he could have his main team on the field, Russell who was our best back defender, lost his mojo since his comeback from HIA's and suspension. Smith is not the same at present (injury) being carried, up unto the last two games we have been carrying Moses and JAC with injury.
The defence system is there with Rykes, it was rarely there with BA against teams that outskirted and outsmarted us, Souths used to do it all the time.
BA was effective against less flamboyant sides like Penrith who didn't like playing us and although Storm always got the better of us in the finals, we were very effective against them in the rounds, that has changed with JR and its a mystery why, I would have thought he would have every game plan ever used against us.
No sorry Coryn its just not simple, in fact its infuriating I suspect the one's that really infuriated are Ryles himself and his handpicked coaching colleges......my answer is simple, the make up in the cattle that we are putting on the field is not mature enough, post injuries to gell as a proper defensive team....they maybe still suffering from DB's absence, I always marvelled in those days how many tries would have been scored without Dyllans presence.
5 hit ups and kick.
You can see that can't you.
Have a look at the match replays we've adopted this for the last month of football.
I bet you we'll see alot of that this week also.
Our edge defense is a mess there's not much if any real physical dominance in the middle of the park.
Looks pretty familiar to what we were doing 23-24 with injuries aswell.
Coryn, the Eels lack super fast centres and so, true, they don't attack from the backfield like Cowboys or Dolphins.
But ensuring you make your 40 and kicking to a corner if you haven't ran 60 metres by play two is simply stock play for almost every team.
Again, evidence for "same style" has to be, you know, evidence! First you have none. Then you seemed to suggest two totally different styles but cited no data for either. Now the evidence is that they play like many teams do, of getting out of their own end and kicking to a corner if nothing has happened.
What is the ultimate point of your "JR getting a free ride" argument? It's clear you're not going to warrant the "same style" claim with reasonably specific evidence. So let's just get to why you think it matters?
That is, the lack of evidence for your claim doesn't mean you don't have a gripe to get out! What's the gripe?
-
1
-
2
-
3
of 3 Next