They'll probably find their way back home after Moses is retired. Let's be real Moses was in his prime when those two were here. Same with Dyl he too was in prime form.
I don't blame them, they all left under Brad Arthur's era, and BA was f*cking pathetic at developing juniors and playing them, he'd prefer to buy has-beens. They all made good decisions.
Ryles is different, I think we'll see a good crop come in under him, we just have to be a little patient.
Correct when it came to the halves and hooker, but we had shit forwards and backs for years under BA. Occasionally he had some success with Lane, Papali, and a couple of others, but the only juniors he blooded with any real success was Dylan Brown and Will Penisini.
Rather than concluding Talagi would not have developed if he statyed at the Eels, because our defense is so bad, the other way to look at it is to ask why Talagi's defense is bad at the Panthers? Basically, WHAT IS HIS EXCUSE?
What in the Panthers' record provides Talagi an excuse to remain a crap defender? The Panthers have been perennial minor premiers (2020, 2022 and 2023) and grand finalists 2020-2024, winning 4x 2021-2024. Talagi starts at Panthers in 2025 and they finished 7th in 2025 before winning two finals matches to bow out in the preliminary final to eventual premiers Broncos. Talagi has the Kiwi Intl' centre on one side, an established backrower on the other, and the Australian fullback calling the shots behind him.
What is Talagi's excuse to still be a defensive turnstile? FYI Talagi just topped the Panthers missed tackle count (7) despite his side winning 30-18 vs Raiders. WHAT IS HIS EXCUSE?
I do recall reading somewhere just after Talagi joined Penrith that they were shocked about how far behind he was in footy knowledge. It took them some time to bring him up to speed. He didn't play the first 6 weeks if I recall. Not sure what that says about the systems at the Eels. If this is indeed true (and not just a swipe at the Eels), would explain why our up and comers take so long to develop.
His defence is still crap, and was targeted last year in some of those clutch games at the end of the season, which I believe was the difference between them winning and losing. His misses just aren't as consequential as they would be if he was still at Parra.
Sanders is still developing, but he has a good system around him. He has Ethan Strange next to him who is a wonderful defender. I don't think he would have that at Parra.
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Nah mate, a virtual jovial shoulder bump between friends. That's all 👍
No no I know BE. Was saying jab tongue in cheek ahaha.
They'll probably find their way back home after Moses is retired. Let's be real Moses was in his prime when those two were here. Same with Dyl he too was in prime form.
I don't blame them, they all left under Brad Arthur's era, and BA was f*cking pathetic at developing juniors and playing them, he'd prefer to buy has-beens. They all made good decisions.
Ryles is different, I think we'll see a good crop come in under him, we just have to be a little patient.
Unfortunately, BA was coaching with vested interest with Jake and Matt career in his mind.
Correct when it came to the halves and hooker, but we had shit forwards and backs for years under BA. Occasionally he had some success with Lane, Papali, and a couple of others, but the only juniors he blooded with any real success was Dylan Brown and Will Penisini.
Talagi has been great in the Penrith system, but to be 100% honest I doubt we would have developed him as well if he stayed.
Our team defense is already shocking and Talagi would've been an easy target for the opposition.
Talagi's defence is still terrible, he just has better defenders around him that makes it look like his defence has improved.
Rather than concluding Talagi would not have developed if he statyed at the Eels, because our defense is so bad, the other way to look at it is to ask why Talagi's defense is bad at the Panthers? Basically, WHAT IS HIS EXCUSE?
What in the Panthers' record provides Talagi an excuse to remain a crap defender? The Panthers have been perennial minor premiers (2020, 2022 and 2023) and grand finalists 2020-2024, winning 4x 2021-2024. Talagi starts at Panthers in 2025 and they finished 7th in 2025 before winning two finals matches to bow out in the preliminary final to eventual premiers Broncos. Talagi has the Kiwi Intl' centre on one side, an established backrower on the other, and the Australian fullback calling the shots behind him.
What is Talagi's excuse to still be a defensive turnstile? FYI Talagi just topped the Panthers missed tackle count (7) despite his side winning 30-18 vs Raiders. WHAT IS HIS EXCUSE?
I do recall reading somewhere just after Talagi joined Penrith that they were shocked about how far behind he was in footy knowledge. It took them some time to bring him up to speed. He didn't play the first 6 weeks if I recall. Not sure what that says about the systems at the Eels. If this is indeed true (and not just a swipe at the Eels), would explain why our up and comers take so long to develop.
His defence is still crap, and was targeted last year in some of those clutch games at the end of the season, which I believe was the difference between them winning and losing. His misses just aren't as consequential as they would be if he was still at Parra.
Sanders is still developing, but he has a good system around him. He has Ethan Strange next to him who is a wonderful defender. I don't think he would have that at Parra.
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