https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/1608091715833/footy-concussions
Very interesting and tragic. Featuring parras Ray Price and Brett Horsnell.
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"For 5/8th, the question is really what if the Eels had Jason Smith paired with Mitchell Moses not Dylan Brown? Does Brown still take #6 if the halves combination is considered?"
" Tim Smith.... what could have been"
"Obviously Jacob Arthur, with Chris Sandow or Daniel Mortimer a close second and Mitchell Moses a Smokey for third place?"
"Cheers LB. I just can't go past him, the only 5/8 on that list to play for Australia and multiple times, back in the 2000's he was one of our best players, i'd say he could even be second to the great Brett Kenny for us."
"Yeah fair call, that was a miss by me, thank you for mentioning BE. If any others want to vote Smith i am happy to include it here?"
"All good Hector. The likes of Grothe, Price, Kenny, Sterling etc. would make it that up to 4 surveys are null and void as we know who they are. "
" Bret Kenny by a mile but out of the 1's on the list Michael Buettner"
"Sorry LB , i find this position that i just can't vote. Leaving out Jason Smith who meets the 1998 criteria is a mistake in my opinion. He would be my first choice, Still played for Australia in 2000 as an Eel."
"Well that's a poor excuse LB . Just taking the piss bud . But me and Pops being old farts we have our old favourite players that we were fortunate enough to see win the four premierships just hope the people that have yet to no what it's like . Get…"
"I haven't written Jr as I want to save time and move on. I thought people would understand the difference of Grothe from Modern Era tag."
"This is 1998 onwards, NRL era. If all time I don't even do survey as Kenny Gets it."
"Well I don't see junior after his name on the list"
"Junior got named not senior for Grothe.
That is why I prefer modern day discussion as it is someone other than Kenny it would be a quick survey"
That is why I prefer modern day discussion as it is someone other than Kenny it would be a quick survey"
"It's Grothe Junior Poppa, this is modern day. 1998 onwards."
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Ray Price sounded so fried when he was speaking. My young bloke wants to play league next year, jury is still out for me if I let him.
Shit poppy, that was a bit harsh. Feel free to have a crack at me, but taking a dig at the intelligence of my son is a bit low.
My earliest memory of the eels is my old man making me watch the 86 GF. When pricey and crow were chaired off, my old man was crying. So, either dad love them, or he had a horrible foreboding of the priemership drought to come :)
Concussions were poorly understood in Ray's day. Given the era and position he played in, he likely had a number of concussions, especially when you take into the fact players like Matty Johns said he had about 10 or so through his career.
But concussions aren't the biggest issue here. The biggest issue is repeated sub-concussive impacts. Those hits that rattle you but don't give you a complete concussion. It's like a boxer taking small jabs throughout a fight. The more of those they take the higher chance of a KO. What Dr. Omalu found was that those repeated minor head traumas had more of an impact on later quality of life than the larger, more infrequent hits.
I do know that the NRL is actually seen as one of the better concussion managers in professional sport. Their HIA system and protocol is seen as one of the most stringent and most closely abides by the recommendations from medical professionals. It's also why I don't think we'll see a class action against the NRL. Unlike the NFL, as far as we know, the NRL has tried to address the long term impacts of concussions as soon as they became aware of them.
What would you change poplet?
Maggie, Both Ray and Brett Kenny need a Swahili interpreter on hand at all times.