https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/1608091715833/footy-concussions
Very interesting and tragic. Featuring parras Ray Price and Brett Horsnell.
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from what we've seen of gutsy Joash he…"
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clearly, he'll be in many clubs minds!"
clearly, he'll be in many clubs minds!"
"Daz, respectfully, the criticism of Dylan Brown on this site was absolutely ridiculous, and far exceeded some 'promise' of stepping up as a halfback. It was relentless.
DB said he needed to 'step up' wth Moses out, which he did in spades, his effort…"
DB said he needed to 'step up' wth Moses out, which he did in spades, his effort…"
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"It is about keeping the right ones people mention how poor Talagi is and forget how Moses used to be it's just a continual moveable narrative by fans.Every player is flawed in some manner or another everyone of them.Thats the trick here if you can…"
"And when the Eels retain Tuivati? R&R is great? Move on to next player whom if lost means R&R is shot?
I don't know how people survive these rubber band epistemic lives "
I don't know how people survive these rubber band epistemic lives "
"Agreed and that is the thing Daz, these guys are quite young - and I know Apa is about 21; i would rather have developed him albeit with Lorenzo, than bring in Pez, who is here for a year. Blaize started in our team in 24, when we had some issues. I…"
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It's not about the player. It's self-appointed managerial…"
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Ray Price sounded so fried when he was speaking. My young bloke wants to play league next year, jury is still out for me if I let him.
Shit poppy, that was a bit harsh. Feel free to have a crack at me, but taking a dig at the intelligence of my son is a bit low.
My earliest memory of the eels is my old man making me watch the 86 GF. When pricey and crow were chaired off, my old man was crying. So, either dad love them, or he had a horrible foreboding of the priemership drought to come :)
Concussions were poorly understood in Ray's day. Given the era and position he played in, he likely had a number of concussions, especially when you take into the fact players like Matty Johns said he had about 10 or so through his career.
But concussions aren't the biggest issue here. The biggest issue is repeated sub-concussive impacts. Those hits that rattle you but don't give you a complete concussion. It's like a boxer taking small jabs throughout a fight. The more of those they take the higher chance of a KO. What Dr. Omalu found was that those repeated minor head traumas had more of an impact on later quality of life than the larger, more infrequent hits.
I do know that the NRL is actually seen as one of the better concussion managers in professional sport. Their HIA system and protocol is seen as one of the most stringent and most closely abides by the recommendations from medical professionals. It's also why I don't think we'll see a class action against the NRL. Unlike the NFL, as far as we know, the NRL has tried to address the long term impacts of concussions as soon as they became aware of them.
What would you change poplet?
Maggie, Both Ray and Brett Kenny need a Swahili interpreter on hand at all times.