https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/1608091715833/footy-concussions
Very interesting and tragic. Featuring parras Ray Price and Brett Horsnell.
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"Howarth and 200k transfer fee back in December and none of this would be happening. Storm just want everything their own way and that's not how life works. Two sides to the deal "
"If Lomax and strom had approached the eels in good faith and said look Zach is wanting to return to the nrl let's work out something that helps both of us. I'm sure that would have been a better path. Not sneaking behind the eels backs and crying to…"
"Is our club cheeky enough to equip Sparky with a blowtorch this year?"
"Alarms going off you reckon?"
"Maybe I didn't phrase my comment well post 2026. To be honest I'm not getting too hung up on the storm and what may or may not happen. I'd take Harry Grant or Cameron Munster off their hands, but we all know realistically that ain't happening. If…"
"Absolutely, all that stuff that's gone on goes in our favour with the judge in making his determination.
I don't think we're being vindictive at all towards Lomax. We just want to be adequately compensated for our loss which is a fair enough…"
I don't think we're being vindictive at all towards Lomax. We just want to be adequately compensated for our loss which is a fair enough…"
"You could potentially ban him from playing against the eels for the term of his contract but how is that fair on the other clubs who have to face Storm who get an origin winger for a 200k transfer. If Lomax really wants to play nrl then open it up…"
"Adam, that would be some meeting behind closed doors: us, the NRL, the Storm, some who-me-yes-you poker faces, and enough blowtorches to keep the fire exits relevant."
"Storm either get him this year or not at all, so player swap next year is quite impossible. But I agree I think a swap is hard as Melbourne are that proud in what they are doing they won't have a sense of losing by caving in.
Yeah he ain't sitting…"
Yeah he ain't sitting…"
"I don't think the eels want to keep Lomax out of the game they are open to sending him to any club who wants him. But the way the storm and Lomax acted trying to sneak around it, I doubt eels want to deal with Melbourne. Ryles seems like a man of…"
"Denan Kemp said, and he is right, Melbourne cannot say no to a player of theirs asking for a release again.
The main thing out of this is Melbourne do not give a flying you know what how people see them in this. If they win the comp this year all…"
The main thing out of this is Melbourne do not give a flying you know what how people see them in this. If they win the comp this year all…"
"As much as I'd like Lomax to sit out from the nrl for the next 3 years (and he should) realistically that isn't happening. It isn't fair.
That is what this court case is all about, to determine what is fair. So it isn't 100% right or 100% wrong (or…"
That is what this court case is all about, to determine what is fair. So it isn't 100% right or 100% wrong (or…"
"He was provided all the legal advice before signing the release and understood the stipulations. Just because R360 didn't eventuate doesn't mean he can force his way out of it lol. Spoilt brat defence is not going to work for Lomax or the storm 🤣 "
"LB, Eli, good stuff gents. We've acted in good-faith. By the book. With clean hands. Lomax appears not to. Still, equity is not unlikely to view an NRL-wide 3-year restraint until 31Oct 28' as overly-punitive and read it down.
We'd still win,…"
We'd still win,…"
"The best thing for the Eels is if we say nothing our position is clear we only have to come back to the table if Melbourne come with something we see as advantageous for us that really is the bottom line.
Best thing about this there the ones doing…"
Best thing about this there the ones doing…"
"If you look at it from a player for player deal, would you rather Lomax or Howarth if you are the Storm but ? I just don't see any way legally the storm can force the eels to hand them Lomax 🤣 either way don't really care what storm end up doing but…"
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Ray Price sounded so fried when he was speaking. My young bloke wants to play league next year, jury is still out for me if I let him.
Shit poppy, that was a bit harsh. Feel free to have a crack at me, but taking a dig at the intelligence of my son is a bit low.
My earliest memory of the eels is my old man making me watch the 86 GF. When pricey and crow were chaired off, my old man was crying. So, either dad love them, or he had a horrible foreboding of the priemership drought to come :)
Concussions were poorly understood in Ray's day. Given the era and position he played in, he likely had a number of concussions, especially when you take into the fact players like Matty Johns said he had about 10 or so through his career.
But concussions aren't the biggest issue here. The biggest issue is repeated sub-concussive impacts. Those hits that rattle you but don't give you a complete concussion. It's like a boxer taking small jabs throughout a fight. The more of those they take the higher chance of a KO. What Dr. Omalu found was that those repeated minor head traumas had more of an impact on later quality of life than the larger, more infrequent hits.
I do know that the NRL is actually seen as one of the better concussion managers in professional sport. Their HIA system and protocol is seen as one of the most stringent and most closely abides by the recommendations from medical professionals. It's also why I don't think we'll see a class action against the NRL. Unlike the NFL, as far as we know, the NRL has tried to address the long term impacts of concussions as soon as they became aware of them.
What would you change poplet?
Maggie, Both Ray and Brett Kenny need a Swahili interpreter on hand at all times.