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As a younger fan, its probably not my area to compare the quality of our past athletes to what is today. However as a avid fan of pretty much all major sports i see little difference to the progress the athletes of our game are making in comparison to the international juggernauts such as the EPL and the NFL in fact i do think we are moving in the right direction and have been fortunate to still maintain such a strong brand for all these years.
I think the point you are making about the changing state of players is pretty strong, but i honestly dont think its a big concern
Yes while i do think when looking at the Foran and hopoate cases they are absolutely ridicuolous but this is the the state of modern sport and i do think it is a healthy sign that our game is alive and kicking if they are our biggest concerns.
Whenever i feel crap about our own game i think about the diehard super rugby tragics who have to face bigger problems than just some players acting like sooks, its a sport that has been struggling both nationally and internationally for a number of years and its been a testament of the continued dominance of the all blacks, the falling crowds, the potential for multiple teams to be axed and the total reliance they have on the novelty version of their own game (the sevens).
I mean rugby league yeah we have had problems but they are problems that are no differently faced in some of the biggest sporting codes in the world. Things like the toronto wolfpack, the improving super league and the extreme luckiness for our game to have a national comeptition where anybody can beat anybody it has continually allowed for interest and excitement to be sustained. I think we should be focusing more on this rather the actions of some players
Yes i do think we need a change of face in order to keep this progression, Greenburg and his staffers need to be moved on and news limited IMO do need to back off abit but apart from that I dont think our game is in a drastic position atm and i dont think the attitude of some players adds to this
The problem with Rugby atm is the exact opposite of what rugby league possesses and that is culture. Union has a huge cultural issue and the main reason why we have been so fortunate in rugby league (besides the forans and hopoate outliers) is because we have been able to maintain our identity as the working class game for over a century now. People who define our game are people like your johns brothers, your fittlers, corey normans and Jonathan Thurstons. Down to earth blokes who act and speak like the everyday man.
By maintaining connections with this sought of larrikin identity i think has the main reason why we have been able to maintain such a strong position and has been the reason why we have been able to ward off any sought of significant competitive threat from the rising A-league and AFL (in NSW).
If rugby want to survive they need to relinquish their own obession with being the upperclass game, remove themselves from private schooling ties and they need to get out there and appeal to the common man.
The impact on the game whether ARL, Super League or NRL is a result of the decisions men have made not the organisations they created or imagined. Money has always dictated the management of the game since inception. It was money that got the best players to transfer their loyalties from Ruby's Onion to Rugby league.
We did get a better result from that initial transformation.
I agree Tin Tim that the last lot of changes have not necessarily advanced the character of the game that we have grown to love if not "fell in love with at first sight" whenever that may have been. These current changes were orchestrated once again by men, more concerned with money than preserving the game that we knew.
I have no doubt though, that some changes needed to be made for the safety of the kids and adults who play it if you wanted to also have the support of mothers who are the lifeblood of junior rugby league. Without which we have no game.
My conclusion is. Money runs our game and every other game eventually played on a professional level because it is entertainment displayed in a Capitalist environment whether socialist capitalism or western democratic capitalism. That's what Capital is "Money"