The overiding sentiment on this site, and in the media noise, is: we need a "new voice" and "new ideas".
Now, let's assume we can somehow nab seven-premiership winning Bennett who poured icy cold water on the Eels' idea a few weeks back.
It's unlikely we could get a better credentialed coach.
Let's put the obvious reality aside, which is, without certainty of knowing what the Eels' footy board, a seemingly optimistic, stoic "turtle wins the race" duck sailing smoothly on the surface is really doing underwater. Perhaps, paddling like mad. In all likelihood, it's unlikely that the footy board - who apparently have a very transparent and honest relationship with Brad Arthur and would go through the "front door" if there was a new coach on the horizon - have made any serious moves on the coaching front.
In all likelihood, Arthur will see our the rest of the year, at least. And when Moses returns if there is a renaissancenof sorts the landscape could change temporarily. A few wins could change the temperature quickly, quieting the rising drum noises and some of the natives.
The thing is, even if we nab Bennett somehow, which is far from a certainly, how long would he with us how long? Three years?
How much can he change in that time?
The tale of the tables tells we're in decline, overall as a footy club.
Our NRL squad currently sits 13th (gone up from 14th because the Tigers had a bigger loss than us this week), bottom five, with the 13th worst defence and since mid last year concede over 35 points a game away on average. Our Cup side is also 13th, in last place, with the third worst defence in the competition. Our Jersey Flegg side is also 13th, in last place, also with the third worst defence in the competition. Our woman's team is 10th, in last place, with the worst defence in the competition. Anyone seeing a trend?
Sure, it's only round and "not the end of the world" to quote Clint Gutherson from earlier mid-week. Just before the Manly loss.
From a distant galaxy, the good news is we're doing well in our juniors. Something not new. Our SG Ball Cup U-19s are 5th (from 16). Our Harold Mathew's Cup U-16 squad is 3rd (from 17). The polar opposite of what is going on higher up.
It seems the younger we go, with our enviable nursery, the better the results, at the moment.
It echoes the sentiments of 100% Footy by Gus Gould who pointed to our "cultural" woes running deeper than a head coach.
"Brad Arthur is not the trouble with why Parramatta are where they are now," Gus pointed out.
"In all the time that I have followed Parramatta, and I was a Parramatta junior, they have never really set up their pathways properly."
"They've never produced a culture, a character of their own, that's brought through the grades with young fellas wanting to be there and a part of the club. And that in the end becomes the problem of the head coach."
"In the end, that becomes the problem for the head coach, who is trying to win games today when no one has really planned adequately for the future."
"Someone has got to take that responsibility - that's not Brad Arthur's responsibility."
"They have great sides in the junior representative fields but it doesn't transition through to a culture or stream of players coming through in the club."
"It's become exhausting for him now."
Back to the we-nab-Bennett Hypothetical.
One of the other benefits that comes with Bennett is his trusty leitenant Dr Jauncey (see above). Bennett's Dr Massey of sorts. They go back decades from Bennett's Broncos premiership winning days. Jauncey is a highly successful sports psychologist, probably one of our best. It's also intriguing, why hasn't our footy board approached him? Results since 2022 suggest we may need a damn good shrink.
So, what's the best case scenario?
Bennett does what he has done before. And we do a St George 2010 to win a title. See above. The longest title drought in the NRL would be broken.
We celebrate. Drink. Dance. Be merry.
But, then what?
Think about what happened after Bennett left St George. The Broncos. Newcastle. Souths. The Broncos have finally started to regroup after their first wooden spoon in 2020 and make good on their God given talents and advantages. But how are Souths going right now?
There are two sliding door moments, here, depending on your perspective.
If you're an out and out optimist and believe we don't have deep rooted cultural issues or more fundamental issues - just need a new coaching voice - it's simple. We just keep throwing everything at the best coach we can find. Problem solved.
However, another door leads to what Jack Gibson said: winning starts at the front office. Perhaps, culture is a complex interdependent web, top to toe?
And in that case, we're going to get back where we started. After all the red wine has finished and the music dies down.
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You're absolutely right, Mutts. What was it 15 years & he was an assistant or whatever with us? I must be going senile. I need to look it up.
Interestingly, Cameron has risen through the ranks at the Panthers, achieving much more than he did with us - from GM to CEO.
Hell, I did a footy course Matt Cameron was involved in years ago at Panthers, think abt 2012-13? He was great and v simple communication- I couldn't believe back then we let him go. But hey that was during which CEO reign? And after Kearney / Stuart and co. Think he was junior development or something back then.
Another young guy who worked for me as a teachers aide was Ben Harden. Look him up. He was a junior champion of a kid. But his knees gave way...ST Mary's kid and he was or is with Penrith now. Good kid and sharp.
Yes, he seems to be a great communicator. There are a number of great interviews with him including one hour long one with Hayden Knowles.
Mitchy, did we let him go or did he look for more opportunities elsewhere?
It's interesting the Panthers seem to have recognised his talent a little more than us.
Your Matt Cameron snow flake is starting gain momentum Mutts I don't know if it's a good thing on here 😂
I'm not sure the club cares. I think with the demise of our NRL team the club is taking sides between BA and O'Neill with the club blaming BA and backing O'Neill (who disagreed with BA regularly). I think we're going all in with O'Neill and the next coach will likely be his appointment.
I just listened to part of an interview with Tim mannah about BA, he said BA is very good at looking after the key leadership group of guys of which he was a part of. He said they don't get pushed as hard, don't have to train as hard and don't get sprayed as bad as the rest of the squad. He said that's why the senior leadership guys go into bat for BA if management were asking questions, he also said if you were to ask the rest of the squad you might get a different response.
It's just as we suspected, get rid of this bloke now.
I said this hours ago HKF
keep up 😆😆
mannah did a very subtle
" dropping BA in the shit " I thought
mb payback for all the bbq fallout etc
Sorry carlo I've been busy and had just seen the interview.
It's ok 😆👍I was joking all good
you explained in more detail
Huge respect for Mannah for putting this out there. Seems like a bit of a boys club and a strategical move by ba to have the leadership group influencing the coaches future.
I've always stated that ba is about himself first and foremost. Agree with hkf this revelation has to be the final nail in the coffin. A former captain coming out like this is massive.
Mannah also stated that the club must absolutely be making plans to get Bennett here asap.
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