THE $1,200,000 PER SEASON QUESTION!

 

 Here is the question...... Do you believe spending $1,200,000 per season for Moses will increase the chances of the Eels winning a premiership, or, do you think if the Eels signed a proven premiership-winning coach with $1,200,000 plus available to him for signing a star or several players would be a better option?

 

 In my opinion, paying the best part of $3,000,000 per season for Gutho, Brown, and Moses is way too much. 

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      • I'd sign him for 2 seasons on 450k year , and Mikaele so saves plenty

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    He is choosing between two top teams - Not. It must be all about the money. 

    • It's a tight competition so far this year, looks like anything can happen and it's going to be around a legitimate 6/7 horse race.

  • But Slippery your not paid to make such decisions and you don't know what they are paid or how it is made up. You are also not in the market that they are in with a limited amount of merchadise.....

    I say regularly to you blokes a market is what you pay for, its not like a big window where you pick what you want or a chess board with set pieces,

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       I totally understand what you are saying regarding market value, but, market value can make some big mistakes, so big it can cripple a club for 5 or more years. How about for this discussion we talk about "our own value estimation"?

       

       So working around a salary cap of $12,500,000 spread through 30 players. That gives an average per player of roughly $416,666 per player. I don't see the value in Moses taking anything near 3 players' share. In my opinion, if Moses is worth $1,200,000 per season the real top-line players (automatic origin selections, x-factor type players) must be worth close to $2,000,000 per season. 

       

       Many clubs are struggling in the halves yet from what I understand only 2 of 17 clubs are interested in Moses. Why? I bet if a more realistic price tag was attached to Moses, many more clubs would be interested. 

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        • So you reckon he played us less than two years ago when we were blessed with his loyalty and he apparently knocked back the Broncos offer? 

          Or has he only just built his business empire in the last year and a half?  He's certainly been busy in that time , apparently he didn't even have family here back then. 

  • IMO he is worth $1,026,597 per year and not a cent more.

  • I always smile when I see people say "he's only worth $800k". Fair enough everyone is entitled to an opinion but that's not how player prices are determined. It's a bidding war between clubs that determines price end of story. 
    That said, the Eels should also have a ceiling and be prepared not to budge from it. For many reasons Moses should have signed by now. If he wants to stay at Parra he has an excellent offer on the table. His refusal to sign it is poor form and an act of poor faith by him and his manager. We can't go much longer without a halfback for 2024. 

    • This is how I see it playing out

      • We can safely assume that he's not leaving to go to the Tigers. They are at best, a 5% chance of landing him, and those odds are lengthening by the day. But it's still a possibility the Eels can't take for granted. 
      • MM knows this is his last big contract and obviously wants to maximise it, at a guess he wants to earn $6m over the next 5 years.
      • The variable is his 2024 option, presumably for his current salary of 950k. 
      • The club is only prepared to pay him top dollars from 2025-2028, let's say that's $1.2m per season, that's $4.8m over 4 years, plus his 950k for 2024 if he takes up his option. That's a total of $5.75m over 5 years. It's 250k short of what he wants. 
        So, either he takes up his option and the Eels have to pay more from 25-28, or he doesn't take up his option and the Eels give him the 5th year at $1.2m.

      What it really comes down to is that MM wants a 250k pay rise for 2024. 
      He has the ace in the hole with his option, he knows it, and that's why he's playing hardball.

      Smart. 

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        • That maybe the case, but that would be silly on the part of the club. Is there any indication that his game is going to fall off a cliff in 2028 ?

          He'll get his 5th year, either from us or the Tigers, the ball is in Mark O'Neill's court. There's a reason the Tigers only extended Adam Douehi for an extra year. They know Mitch can exercise his option for 2024 and now they can have another lash at him come Nov 30. If MM stays with us they can just re-up AD, if MM signs with the Tigers, they can play hard ball with AD. 

          Mark O'Neill has done a pretty good job thus far, but this is his biggest test yet. Ultimately he will be judged on the outcome of this negotiation. He needs to get this right.

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