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"Defence being gassed makes it easier for the big boys to find a 1 on 1."
"Your "gay friend" is just a crazy homeless dude with an original begging style..... Why do you think he's gay? Did you blow him rather than chuck him a buck?...you so nasty old man"
"Right, and Sanders and the club would have foreseen this? Simply hindsight that claim. When he signed his path was blocked. Moses 2 injury riddled seasons could not have been predicted enough for Sanders to stay."
"I understand and my first inclination is that must be right.....but it is not logical, the smaller more mobile forwards should be offering more in a faster game.
Does a good big man automatically beat the good little man.....maybe in one off's that…"
Does a good big man automatically beat the good little man.....maybe in one off's that…"
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They had a higher average set distance, however with better completion, Eels actually topped them in total run meters
Yeah but the Cowboy metres, while Taumololo and Mikaele gained metres, it was all their slippery players like Purdue, Dearden and Drinkwater that made the metres for them by evading tackles etc...
But I agree about the other forwards dominating us in those other games, which creates space behind the ruck for the fast 9s and 1s to run into.
We've won every game we completed at over 80% this year. And while the Cowboys set completions were only 71% against us, we have actually completed far worse twice this year (63% and 64%) and both times we conceded 50.
What I don't get is no one but no one is criticising JR for a style of play that the last coach was ostracised for.Not only is he getting a pass here we have the worst defense in the comp leaking at an nrl record type rate,we also don't have the players to play that way but we are still a well coached side I've red on here.
Now think about that for minute I did have to have a quite chuckle to myself about that one.
Coryn, you claim BA was "ostracized" for the "same style of play" that JR is coaching but copping no flak about.
Yet the premise there is that BA and JR are in fact coaching the same "style of play". You have not established that assumption.
Maybe you have a point, maybe you don't. But you have to establish not assume key premises.
In what way are the styles the same? What is the evidence for the styles being the same?
Yes Daz and I will put in another way Coryn.....easier enough to do btw
Your talking about poor defence in general with BA, no cover (except if DB was doing it) no scramble. Regularly overlapped, wingers could not mark up etc.....
Now the criticism with JRL comes from the middle and the edge......we do have cover defence and we do scramble well. Goal line defence went backward and then Ryles lifts it back into priorities. Our best defensive forward was Hopgood and up untill his injury Riley Smith was the line speed. Our edge forwards have limited lateral tackling ability, that said we only need a couple of misses off the edge and then the runaways start.
JR had this right when he could have his main team on the field, Russell who was our best back defender, lost his mojo since his comeback from HIA's and suspension. Smith is not the same at present (injury) being carried, up unto the last two games we have been carrying Moses and JAC with injury.
The defence system is there with Rykes, it was rarely there with BA against teams that outskirted and outsmarted us, Souths used to do it all the time.
BA was effective against less flamboyant sides like Penrith who didn't like playing us and although Storm always got the better of us in the finals, we were very effective against them in the rounds, that has changed with JR and its a mystery why, I would have thought he would have every game plan ever used against us.
No sorry Coryn its just not simple, in fact its infuriating I suspect the one's that really infuriated are Ryles himself and his handpicked coaching colleges......my answer is simple, the make up in the cattle that we are putting on the field is not mature enough, post injuries to gell as a proper defensive team....they maybe still suffering from DB's absence, I always marvelled in those days how many tries would have been scored without Dyllans presence.
This is not the way ryles intended the team to play, that was made very obvious with the style of fowards he preferred but since the nrl suddenly changed the way the game was officiated he has had to adapt. The smaller more mobile pack does not suit the sped up version of the game, big powerful forwards punching holes up the middle destroying a defences structure is what works with this version of the game.
Ryles has been caught out by this sudden change and is trying to adjust on the run without half of his squad on top of having a forward pack that doesn't suit the style needed to thrive in the faster game.
I understand and my first inclination is that must be right.....but it is not logical, the smaller more mobile forwards should be offering more in a faster game.
Does a good big man automatically beat the good little man.....maybe in one off's that is happening, but tell who are the big forwards that are dominating.....Ford from Warriors leads the pig group, where are the big guys, KK the one every wanted to break the bank for here is going like a busted arse, Tino you wouldn't piss on, Paulo is going ok but he has some haters on here for reasons mainly of bad judgement....our big blokes, who ever they are don't seem to last long.
Its the big fast powerful backs, Tedesco, Edwards, Mitchell doing the damage, trailed by the fast and elusive little men.
I must be seeing this all wrong.....please explain?
Defence being gassed makes it easier for the big boys to find a 1 on 1.
If we play for 80 keep the coach
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