It does not seem to be going away and Winter is coming, and restrictions are being relaxed. If there was one month of no restrictions right now we would be back above the previous peak. Government is taking best option of trying to get economy going by gradually easing less important restrictions and seeing what gives. But there is a chance that this thing explodes and we are back to tighter restrictions and no NRL. Most likely there will be isolated outbrakes in a handfuls of communities that will be contained more or less but who knows. At least the flu season will probably the best one for a long time which may make up for it. April results for influenza should be out in a week or so and should show up to a 100-fold reduction in the number of flu cases diagnosed.
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It is what is.
We can't stay in lock down forever.
I agree there maybe another outbreak but that's a risk we need to take.
Choosing between life or death shouldn't be a gamble. But fuckwits get hard up when they hear we may get a 'early mark' .
Bazz, hows your blown out asshole travelling these days?
Any recent tears to the rim?
Snake I've been in ISO with my toys, how the fcuk do you think my asshole is?
Have you seen the death rate on the roads or for influenza? If you a scared stiff of the chance of dying you will be locked up in your house for the rest of your life.
So where do you draw the line for quarantining the population? 1in 1000 people dying? 1 in 100? And it's not that simple. The health dollar is not infinite and doctors are making choices on who lives and dies all the time. ICU is expensive and not everyone gets it, cancer treatment is expensive and not everyone gets standard treatment and only the super rich get the best available. The more money we have the more lives we save. If we don't work, we have less to pay for health care and more people die.
Influenza has a 1 in 1000 death rate and kills kids and all ages and not just elderly.. But no one worries about that. Many people with flu go to work and go on public transport and happily give it to the whole office or train carriage and that is OK. But COVID19 with 10 fold high death rate (some reports from USA are now saying Only a three- fold higher death rate) and every one goes into full fear mode. One extreme to the other. Think we need a bit more balance.
Wile fair point about this chinese virus; we just do not know and i read the other day that the US and UK are going to watch how we and NZ deal with this over winter. Our winters are nothing like theres mind you.
I am just more concerned abt the NRL and how they dealt with the players so who have broken the rules. I wonder what they would do if a high profile breaks the rules now.....
Wile, I think it would be fair to say that the millions of people who get vaccinated each year worry about influenza....
Fair point.
As bad as the Covid 19 pandemic is and the terrible, sad deaths it's caused I think statistically speaking there have been far greater deaths caused by other causes with less media coverage in Australia and world wide and with no restrictions whatsoever.
The false comparisons are obviously already flowing, which is what we will see as the claims about "it was all an over-reaction" start to flow.
So, maybe, if false comparisons are going to be made, the true baseline should be one side of the comparison?
Early estimates in the scenarios analysis said IF 50% of the Australia population contracted the virus (12.5 million) and IF the health care system was over-loaded with hospitalizations and thus IF the fatality rate was 3%, then we could see 375,000 deaths.
Thus, any comparison that uses the flu or car accidents etc as comparitor should be comparing flu and car accidents etc to 375,000 deaths and asking whether the social lockdown was worth avoiding 375,000 deaths? Note Australia's average annual avoidanble death tally is about 27,000, so worst case threatened over a tripling of that rate.
Now if you say "but that didn't happen" then you're forgetting the lockdown and its effects, so not a strong argument. Regardless, it's never going to be a good argument wheng one half of your comparison is deliberately deflated
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