The two tries where we scored on the wing, typically I've seen people blame the winger, so I went back and analysed the play and the play before it. And I just want to highlight Clint Gutherson's getting caugh on the wrong side of the ruck.
Try One
In the play proceeding Guth has rushed across as the play went right, and has then put himself in the line, but he's stayed on the short side, rather than pushing his A defender across. Subsequently, we have 5 players marking four players on a short-side that is not set up at all, and was never getting the ball. If he had of realised the number mismatch, Gutho needed to get the message out to the right-side defence that they were short an Mahoney needed to push harder to stay in A, but instead Paulo who is two-out becomes A defender and they have a 5 on 4, which they execute well to score.
Worth noting that while the halfback uses the cutout to his winger, he could also have easily kicked in behind because Gutherson is no where to be seen.
Try Two
The second try is not so much Gutho, as Shaun Lane. However, you want your fullback to reading these plays and telling your defenders who are peeling off where to go. Lane goes short-side where we already had 3 on 3, and this is where the problem starts.
However, where I do blame Gutho here is not recognising the number differential and urging the men around him to slide harder, the only way to stop this play at this point is for everyone to start sliding hard. Gutho and Reg need to to deal with the decoy runner, but instead Junior gets pulled in on him, and even worse Papali'i tried to protect Reed on the short runner. Junior needed to push and help Reed with the short runner and Ice needed to slide. Clearly, there has been no communication to that side of the field to tell them there has been a number mismatch on the other, and once again Titans execute perfectly.
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Great analysis TKBK, people can stop blaming wingers and especially simmonson, Gutho was definitely out of position and caught on the wrong side of the ruck that's is called ametur hour from the captain...
I reckon the coaching staff will be onto this during training this week.
Papali made a poor decision and read also he just wrapped his arms around inside man instead of sliding.
Don't know if it was the same 1 ur talking about but it proves everyone in defence line has to do their job and be in place other wise it make it hard for wingers.
Yep thats try two and essentially thats how they ended up with a two-man overlap because we had the poor numbering up in the first place and then Papili made the situation worse by getting sucked into defending the decoy runner.
Agree, Papali main job was to slide and put pressure on the halfback, by making the wrong read that drags in Moses infield and then we are outnumbered
100% in this case Papali'i was gased lazy and took easy option. He didn't look outside or to his right he could of easily made up 1m with abit of hussle.
I know I m been abit harsh but its the difference and standard we need to get to next level.
Remember Papali'i is a $600 000 player.
Spot on Barraboy, not harsh at all - these are the areas teams like storm and Panthers rarely get wrong - let's see if these areas are addressed v the sharks
And thats kind of the point. We keep getting changes of personnel in our outside backs and not a lot changes and I think as you say maybe it comes down to communication. I think in particular your fullback and hookers need to be big talkers in defence because fullback should be counting and marshalling and its really important that your hooker is working with his props around A to get the middle sorted and put your line in a position to slidey. Worth noting in Try Two that Mahoney gets caught outside of Junior Paulo (he had plenty of time to readjust and get Junior on his outside). Particularly when Mahoney gets caught on the right side of his prop, it means that whoever is second rower now has Mitchell Moses on his outer and Reed Mahoney on his inner which puts an enormous amount of responsibility on the second row defender to pick the right runner.
Good work, mate.
By the time the ball is played there's not much communicating or adjusting that can be done to fix this. The middle defenders can't start pushing out until the ball goes past them or they'll potentially leave a big hole if the markers don't get there. For the same reason the wider defenders can't leave too much space from their inside man. This is how quick play-the-balls lead to overlaps and wingers scoring untouched. It's not the defending winger's fault.
So the problem here was the quick play-the-ball. We should've held them down and conceded six again.
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