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Absolutely Michael !
Spot on Michael. When DB makes a break (which he does quite often) it's the responsibility of our speed men to be there in support. That will change a LOT this year and I can see Parra scoring quite a few long-distance try's as a result. Iongi, Lomax and JAC will make a big difference in that area.
I think the biggest thing is the perceived lack of communication. Grand final run things clicked om DB's side with Lane finding form but also their way of knowing where the other would be.
maybe the last two years with the injury run the side has had its thrown it off and not had the opportunity to find that consistency but it doesnt does it excuse the silence or development to grow past those issues... I dunno. If he goes, any team will take time to gel...
best comparison I would make is DB is similar to Brandon Smith. Great when theyve got the right players sureounding them, but you dont know who is going show up on the day
Bup,
Respectfully disagree with you here, on parts.
Id argue Dylan created space for his outside men often last season, and also seems to have good communication with his second rowers.
His combination with Lane in 2022, but also with Tualigi last season who was running fantastic lines & decoys. Kelma seemed to know where to run, and when Dylan was running.
His communication is likely still a weakness, not arguing that.
But, I lost count of how many times DB created space & opportunities only to have absolutely no support inside or out.
For me, thats never excusable with ’no one knew what he was doing’. No one knew what Jarryd Hayne was doing either, and that was one of his biggest threats.
Dylan, Munster, Reece Walsh, Cody Walker, Luai, these guys are at their best when they move in & out of structures, looking for opportunities.
The difference with support isn’t their teammates knowing, its players remaining in motion, players on their toes, not their heels, not ball watching.
Players in motion around the ball carrier also creates more probability of a defensive error.
Luai is a good example, he’s very unstructured & doesn't telegraph where he is going, but guarantee Dylan Edwards will be lurking, and his outside backs / backrowers aren’t 20m behind ball watching.
The onus is on DB's teammates to be there in support Bup, they know his strength is running, it's a lack of focus, attention to detail or effort to not see one support player within a distance where defences even have to be mindful.
One huge criticism I have DB last season was him not berating his teammates for it, he was playing the general role, he was within his rights to demand more - Moses would have.
It all makes the contract issue all the more frustrating. In 2025, Dylan has experience & class surrounding him, this should be the year we see whats capable, but instead, he has this distraction for himself & the entire club.
Huge respect for you Bup, and just my 2cents.
No offence taken NOS but why are Browns outside men in first grade if they aren't hitting their marks.
Is the problem the player , the instruction , the application or the squad.
Ultimately the responsibility of any NRL team and its direction rests with its spine and its coaching coordinators as well as its list.
Accountability is the foundation of every successful club, there's always reasons for failure but that's not an excuse.
Bup, why Russell, Tago, Blaize Talagi (at centre) were all in first grade, at the same time, is a very good question.
A lack of support play, consistently, at this level has to speak to application, attention to detail, focus, effort, attitude, and coaching?
Accountability, 100%, which includes Dylan, Im with you.
He was the halfback, whether he should have been or not, and he (and Gutho) had a responsibility to drive standards.
The lack of support play was a real indication of the teams attitude last season, their mentality, imo.
It happened with Dylan 3-4 times just against the Tigers, the first game Moses missed, and was never rectified from there.
If that was Munster creating chances with no support, would Bellamy put the onus on Munsters communication? Or verbally rip the ears off his teammates for standing flat 20m away?
I don't think anyone on here has banged on about 1 percenters more than me the last decade.
Support play, kick chase , kick pressure , quick play the balls, getting square at marker are all attitude based team markers and its pissed me off no end BA used to talk about front loading effort without mentioning those %1 that we've traditionally been found wanting in.
Dylan frustrates me , the talent there is endless he just never seems to apply a blow torch to the opposition, he doesn't understand going through the gears or simply knowing when or how to up the ante.
When your management is talking franchise players and $1.2 million in salary he's a long way off understanding the nuances of attacking pressure to command those sort of figures.
Definately there's been issues around injuries to players crucial to his development but at some stage the onus is on Dylan.
If you want the big bucks , prove you deserve it more so demand it with your football .
'Players in motion around the ball carrier also creates more probability of a defensive error" good point NOS
But it's a head scratcher as why Dylan can't play both sides of the field, Brown is behind schedule in terms of his development - now I feel this has to do with BA coaching philosophy and let's face it his no student of the game. DB had a few try assist hitting Kelma and Penisini on the right side but that was it, it will be interesting to see how the attack looks like under Ryles, my gut feeling is will see more players in motion and more done off the ball.
Very fair points, Mick. Coryn was always calling for DB to play both sides also.
Looking forward to the attack under Ryles too, feel the increased fitness levels & speed outside will help our halves a lot.
Still confident or has DB derailed it for you?
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