1. Gutho's strong endorsement of Moses as the Leader. When does king endorse a different one?
2. Gutho's need for a further week to decide his future, why cant this be done now?
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"He's a fullback, of course he'll leave.
He needs a lot of work defensively to be a center, which someone like Richie Penisini (who's younger than Apa) already is better at.
at 5/8 the defense will be an issue but we have Lorenzo, Fletcher, Risati,…"
He needs a lot of work defensively to be a center, which someone like Richie Penisini (who's younger than Apa) already is better at.
at 5/8 the defense will be an issue but we have Lorenzo, Fletcher, Risati,…"
"I don't think twiddle is a boom rookie. Got talent and is a class players at times but I can't see him landing a full time gig in the halves or fb for us "
"If he is not retained that'll be the nail in the coffin for any hope under this administration.
If not they've learnt and grown and that'd be exciting"
If not they've learnt and grown and that'd be exciting"
"Thompson will be rusty and doubt he plays long minutes. Still will be hard to beat without him."
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Pangi junior is off contract and starting talks with whoever wants to. Doubt he would come to the Eels, Future champion of our game.
Lets see if the same contract and media shit comes out around him.
Who cares! The sooner this circus clown leaves the better for everyone.
Most of us don't really have an issue with him if he wants to leave. It's the way he's gone about it. We're into about the seventh week of these contract negotiations and he had the gall, last week, to come out and say he didn't like being called greedy and he just wanted it over and done with. He could end this whenever he wants. At the end of the day it's his decision regardless of what his manager says. He's been more work than Jarryd Hayne was when his contract negotiations came up and that's saying something.
Difference is when Haynes contract was up, there was always speculation he would code hop or join another club to bump up his price, with gutho the manly speculation really only happened last couple of weeks which is pretty good considering negotiations went for 6 months
"Why would you want him to go?"
To sign a better player, with less baggage for the same coin.
I rate the players that you mention (although French was extremely disappointing last season) and no, I haven't turned on anyone. Some of the arguments put forward NOT to sign Gutherson (i.e the media circus, knee injuries, inflated price, loyalty, retaining Brown etc.) are simply worthy of consideration.
No. I'm happy that he stayed an Eel, just a little jaded by the process. I was merely offering some alternative points of view. I think we paid too much (if it's the reported price of $650K a season) but I'm not in charge of the roster. Do I think there are better players in the NRL at that price point? Yes, I do.
I am not concerned that he is going anywhere. He didn't give me that impression and, if he does, all power to him. He has served Parra admirably. I'm happy with the price the Club has put on him.
I believe he was uncomfortable about all the media hype surrounding the negotiations. He spoke half a beat too quick throughout the majority of the interview and never quite relaxed. It was telling that, when asked about how he would handle things differently in future, his response was "not got to the media". He didn't even try to put that on Ayoub.
With that admission, I suspect he genuinely expected more coin to be on the table and has been left red faced by the reactions of influential RL minds to his position. People like MG have said you couldn't offer him more. His resume doesn't allow for it and no one has a strong view opposing that.
Please don't misinterpret me. I am not criticising Guth. He is well within his rights to put a value on his services and it's not a black and white issue - he is club captain and close to our best player every week. I think if other NRL clubs needed a fullback and had the cash to spend on Guth, we would have a tussle on our hands. It's just fortuitous the Dogs don't have cap space, Manly don't have room or the position of fullback available and the Cowboys seem to have already done a handshake deal with Holmes.
I suspect he will wait to confirm what Manly can offer before signing with Parra.
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