Ladies and Gentlemen,
Thanks for your time and I hope you're all well.
I'm just curious to get your thoughts on what makes the Panthers so good?
Remember when it comes to brain-storming there are only "ideas" without judgements of good or bad.
PS: I'm thinking of producing a pretty extensive, long report on it so I'd love to hear your ideas. There has been some media vignettes on it with the Panthers' ten year plan and the "2015 Project" and how it all began back in 2011 with Cameron and Gus Gould arrival and the powerbrokers back them that wanted change after two decades of inconsistency and largely being also runs most years. It could be argued the seeds of this dynasty that started back in 2009 with Matt Cameron having a chat with AFL development managers on creating successful systems. It could be argued it even started with Cameron's experiences when he was at the Eels and he admits his heavily influence from the likes of Brian Smith and our Pathways systems back then.
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Immigration
Lol. Some scientists believe modern-man originated in Africa 300,000 years ago.
If so, maybe somewhere in our DNA there's a bit of an immigrant in all of us: except some Africans of course who remained loyal to their homeland.
I note there are a lot of white immigrants in the USA Funny how people see things differently
Yes, Barry makes a good point. Modern-day Australia was built on immigration, but I'm not sure all of Indigenous people are celebrating it. It's subjective as you say TAD.
Not sure , but it's not throwing big money at players just to keep the team together. I saw a pic yesterday where it showed there was only about 4 players left from their first GF squad left. They've only got 3 players on decent coin. And they wernt silly enough to keep 2 big dollar halves, as soon as Luai wanted a big pay rise he was out. That's how they win, it's either smart contracts in the clubs favour , or the next big salary cap scandal. It's very very similar to the Melbourne golden era , they kept shredding players to go under the radar , but managed to keep the important ones together long enough to build the culture and production line .
It's easy to take that approach when you have a production line of talent waiting in the wings. The eels need to dramatically improve the pathways, there are signs lately that there had already been improvements in that area but we need to keep aiming higher.
That is true HFK. Good point.
The Panthers are very much about "building from the inside" as Cameron says, and it took them over ten years to get to 2020-24.
It wasn't all just luck of the draw imo.
Great point, Wiz. Matt Cameron would be nodding his head in agreement with a gentle smile.
In a recent podcast with Hayden Knowles, he admits he doesn't get too attached to players or sentimentality and is ready to shred 2 or so NRL players a year to leave.
Apparantly, he plans 3-5 years ahead constanlty every day. He was saying as soon as they win a grand final he is already thinking of three years from now.
Where to start HOE... 4 in recent years is a feat, 4 on the trot in this era is off the charts. There's a successful formula there for sure and I'd guess it's a combo of so many ingredients.
I don't know HOE... probably a million other things...
Will 5150, excellent post. That was impressive and detailed; thanks for that.
What came to mind as I was reading it was a Matt Cameron mantra, "We refuse to coach effort."
That "effort" is not just about on field effort, and their fundamentals, but everything outside it. According to Cameron.
As such, they select character that is inherently, intrisically competitive - by nature - rather than needing external forces for motivation. No wonder they hunt in packs and never surrender. It's by nature, not by some external motivation.
It's a non-negotable for them.
The other non-negotables are being a "source of Community Pride" (All Blacks-like pride of the nation on a smaller scale) and "good communication". They're big on storytelling too.
Cleary tells them, "If you're aren't communicating, you're not use to anyone."
It is the foundation of their systems, the trust and the confidence between them, as well as good decision-making skills.
There are so many onion layers to the Panthers. It fascinates me.
Sometimes, I wonder what motivates our players, If they need a coach to do it, or a big enough pay packet, or to cop a shellacking and huge loss or enough losses or security.
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