It was not so long ago, on the venerable pages of 1EyedEeel, that those of us unfortunate enough to have landed on the left of the political spectrum were scolded for apparently celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk. No, we said, we are not celebrating that murder. Instead, our point was that the canonization of Kirk was a means to avoid frank discussion of his actual words. We would not participate in canonizing such a divisive figure. No matter said our critics. The issue was stated to be that ‘the left’ were responsible for the Kirk shooting. This ‘fact’ showed ‘the left’ are "loonies", "cancerous", they killed Kirk "because of his beliefs", they are "losing their grip on reality", "showing their true colours" and "cannot accept contrarian views". Yes, receipts available if memory does not serve. Some actually HOPED for "civil war" and that 'lefties' would be "carted off to work camps". Others opined that "far left violence is becoming a trend [and they will] definitely not like what comes next". Well, I guess that last remark was prescient?
Political irony is a gap between ideals and reality. With all this Kirk-inspired defence of free speech, and the deploring of political violence in response to "contrarian beliefs", we on the loony left were asked to ignore two obvious contradictions coming our way. One, our free speech to NOT fall into normative line was self-evidently denied. Apparently, we could not walk and chew gum. In this case, oppose murdering based on disagreement with beliefs but also have our own evaluation that said we oppose canonizing someone we regard as possessing many noxious beliefs. Two, apparently leftists were prone to political violence and deserved violent retribution because political violence was wrong. It is not even possible to parody that one, it is so comically contradictory.
Anyway, now we all watch as US ICE murders a soccer mom in her car and a male nurse trying to assist a woman who was being set upon by ICE agents. Senior US politicians from Trump down on through VP Vance and Congressman like R. Fine, plus Trump’s loyal protection squadron in his administration (Noem, Miller, Hegseth etc), have set about blaming the murder victims for their fate. The soccer mom was called a domestic terrorist trying to use her car as a weapon, when she was shot twice in the body and once in the head. The ICE agent is heard saying “f***en b***h” after murdering her. MAGA is saying the soccer mom deserved it, apparently because women should not be challenging men. The nurse is being accused of sedition and for deserving to be shot, because he was carrying a (licensed) hand-gun on his person (so much for gun rights?) when half a dozen ICE agents piled on top of him on an icy road and shot him multiple times at point-blank range. An ICE agent is on video dancing and clapping moments after the nurse was murdered. The US Republican leadership and their MAGA support base are literally celebrating the murders.
Political irony is a gap between ideals and reality. Is there really any kind of substance to the idea that there is some ideological debate going on here? If everything that was said in those Kirk blogs is true, that free speech extends to free political speech and political action, that political violence in response to political disagreement is wrong, that trends toward violent retribution are abhorrent, where are all the blogs calling for action against the Trump Regime. The Trump Regime that is quite literally terrorizing and violently suppressing its own citizens?
Is there not some common humanity, unfortunately too often hidden behind vicious and pointless trolling of people, usually based on their identity differences, that isn’t screaming out that there is potentially something terrible both germinating and unfolding in the USA at this present time? If political irony is a gap between ideals and reality, when does reality intervene to say stop pretending that free speech and abhorrence of political violence can just be memes launched by the right against the left or the left against the right, and that they actually should mean something, regardless of partisan identification? The US Government is celebrating the murder of its own citizens by its own agents. We are beyond hypotheticals. They’re celebrating murder, FYI.
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Might want to check how busy ICE was during Obama years before you go blame Trump
I don't recall public executions being a thing....are you sure you're not just a hatin' on the black guy?
Thx Steve, it is a fair point to note that the Obama admin over 8 years deported more than Trump has so far. The last count I saw was Obama 3 million and Trump so far 1 million. By raw numbers Obama wins. However, there is a big difference. Under Obama, only high risk cases were prioritized. Under Trump, all illegal immigrants are classified as high risk. This vast expansion of the category of high risk creates the very lawlessness and cruelty we are all seeing on the streets of the blue cities Trump is targeting, while also stoking racial unrest as many US citizens who don't look or sound "white" are being scooped up. There is very clearly no argument that Trump's method is different and scale of enforcement is completely different in tone.
I could eat chicken soup with dumplings every day. I enjoy it the most
I like cold pea and Ham soup thats thick spread on hot toast Will . It's very yummy
Shame everyone missed the point.....or did they
The lesson is that most people who are actually set, left or right.....nothing will change
Any intelligent people will realise what is happening is wrong and reminiscent of so much in human history.
Everyone will have their answer depending where they sit in the circle. The objectivenes of the commentary by Daz, who just happens to be probably the most educated and intelligent of anyone on here becomes irrelevant because he has no prerequisties to being the most just or rightious because of his education......he is as biased on one side as extremes are on the other....there lies the problem in these sort of commentaries. i.e. you don't have to have an imprint on you as someone from the right is automatically an extremist, or for that matter the left.
Staying objective should be the ongoing criteria for anyone examining these sort of threads, its a shame that we cannot have someone of Daz's intelligence and education sitting in the middle giving us a commentary of understanding.....why? because there is so much fake news out there, no one really understands or even knows the truth!
Any intelligent people will realise what is happening is wrong and reminiscent of so much in human history...But you would have us sit quietly and accept it like a good 1930's kraut.
There is no middle commentary to be had...there can be no both-sidering, this shit is evil and intentional
I can fix your Fake News issues on this matter....here you go Plopp. https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2026/01/25/alex-pretti-analysing-fo...
Credability is a wonderful thing Randolph.....it probably never the less doesn't come from a person who has a "bong" for breakfast every morning!
PS Yes you missed the point.....again!
So Bellingcat are non-credible......you are lost and without compass.
Your point is "shut up, nothing changes, walk the middle path, who knows,stay objective blah blah fucking blah."
My point is Quislings and Pussies who refuse to call a spade a spade are as useful as anal warts
Bellingcat is fine, you are still missing the point.....independance is a good example of just that, nothing to do with my commentary. If you think that Daz is independant in his views, then again it is your perogative.
Your reaction to my post is the example I am using is "missing the point" i.e. at no point have I implied Daz's credability when it comes to being unbiased, he would tell you he carries a natural bias to the left, doesn't mean anything he published in this thread is untrue. JUst tainted with that bias. I am sure he will come up with a strong view as to why I am wrong with what ever view I have, which is:
"Any intelligent people will realise what is happening is wrong and reminiscent of so much in human history."
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