Why is it they can, and we don't?

I would like to know how it possible that teams like Dogs, Roosters, Souths, Broncos, always recruit champion players, even when there rosters are chock of stars. Yet Parra always sign mediocre players that at times, don't even get to play first grade. Can't believe the Dogs have signed those 3 champion up & comers brothers Peter, Chanel & Sione Mata'utia, Loko, the young hooker from the Sharks I think his name M Lichaa & now Brett Morris. And they loose Ennis & some players that I've never heard of. South also recruit big names so they know how to get around this salary cap. How come we don't?

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  • Fucken great question.
    Anyone with a brain, even these so called salary auditors, knows that something stinks but they just can't prove it I guess.
    We need to find some accountants like the bulldogs.
    • Rodney Adler is out of prison.
  • The Dogs have a real stench about the cap don't they. Where's there's smoke...... I feel the same about Souths. They signed Inglis, Isaac Luke, McQueen, Te'o and Sam Burgess. Then the 3 other Burgess boys contracts come up and they re-sign with Souths without another NRL club even talking to them. George Burgess was already the best young prop in the game but he signs without even testing the market????? Yeh right.

    • Look who own the bunnies though. You don't think between Holmes A Court, and Crowe they could Russle up (pun intended) a couple of their business mates to make sure a substantial amount of the players salary are 3rd party agreements?

      Same with Bulldogs, they have some very lofty business partnerships topping up player contracts, put in place by the ever likeable Greenburg.

      The new Parra board has seen the light, trying to sign on Bill Moss, but our dopey fans vote against it.

  • souths will go to another level with packer on board as an owner.

    eels should look at privatisation .

    • Maybe Bill Moss ? Or a partnership between Moss and some other well heeled people.
      Isn't there a billionaire in England looking to pour some money into a football club?
    • Privatisation can go very well, or very poorly and usually only occurs when the NRL team is in dire straits. I don't think that is the road the Eels have to take as the Leagues Club is running at a healthy profit at the moment.

      Apoointing Bill Moss as an independent board member is a good option.

    • Talk to anyone who has worked at Manly about privatisation.

      You'll note in reports about the change of ownership that Manly lost $500k. That's a big deal to private owners - if your chewing through millions every year, you're not going to stay rich for very long bankrolling that kind of effort. Rich people don't get rich because they invest in loss-making enterprises.

      Parramatta loses $2 to $3 million every year, which is paid for by the most benevolent of all owners - a Leagues Club. Find my any Australian benefactor who would be willing to burn that amount of money every year. I won't wait here, because you'll be a long-time coming. 

      Manly runs on a comparative shoestring compared to Manly.

      On the flipside who is the most resource-rich club - it's the Bulldogs and that's because they have the richest Leagues club in the state and they're allowed to plunder that for the good of the football operation.

      Souths didn't succeed because they had wealthy owners. They succeeded because they are extremely well-run - they actually make a profit. As such any money that comes into the club from wealthy outsiders is able to be done so as third-party arrangements.

      If a club is run well and successful and a sponsor comes in, if you don't need the money to support operations you can instead push that towards being a third-party relationship, thus extending your cap.

      Our club has been run like a rich-person's toy (albeit using other people's money) for more than half a decade. Our first step is to get the administration of the club running well because they will have flowdown effects on how we can use the money that is available.

      The objective here is to get rich, and we're in a fabulous position to do that if both our Leagues Club and Football Clubs are professionally managed towards growth and success.

  • The big problem for the NRL is that due to rubbery third party deals, there is a very real prospect that the NRL will mimic the soccer in England where only 4 clubs fight out the championship every year and the rest only make up the numbers.
    That's good if you follow one of the four teams but not so much if your idea of a successful year is if you avoid relegation.
    The stretching of these very rubbery rules will, in time, destroy the salary cap.
  • The whole Salary Cap needs to be looked at.None of this 3rd party rubbish as no one knows really what is their contracts and it advantages clubs such as Roosters Broncos Souths and Dogs

    Have a Marquee Player Salary of say $1.25m doesn't go towards cap

    Long Service Player Allowance 8 Yrs 50% Contract Discount 10yrs Full exemption

    The Long Service Player discount starts from the 1st time a player plays for the club including juniors therefore this could also reward clubs with great base.If a player started playing Harold Matthews at 15 by the time he is 25 salary is fully exempt

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