I can't help but notice every year when the dally ms happen.Theres no eels players ever winning anything significant no medals no dally m no team of the year no coach of the year nothing.Theres Bairley to none of any eels players ever there now.
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Inclined to agree .....even Webster was embarrassed and when interviewed in the lead in to the show, he intimated that Justin would be very hard to beat.
The whole affair was a bit cringeworthy, I don't know who organise's the thing, but it needs to go a professional organisation to be done properly. If that currently happens,then they should find someone better.
I was thinking that Chief maybe up for the job, he seems to understand management at all levels of loss leading......or in his case leading the losers.
Yeah, Warriors played finals last season and flopped , this year he also made the finals. So even in the reg season I don't see how he improved all that much.
Holbrook goes from spoon to finals and Webster gets it. It's a weird scenario. Imagine Holbrook wins the comp and history shows the guy who went from as low as a club can get to the highest , wasn't awarded the coach of the year .
BA took the eels from wooden spoon in 2018 to 5th in 2019 should he have won coach of the year?, no because not all wooden spoon teams are equal, some are poor roster teams, others are good roster teams that had a combination of poor coaching, injuries and poor player attitude.
If the finals were counted than yes Holbrook is the coach of the year but finals aren't counted.
Yes BA should've won it . This whole place were pissed off at the time that he didn't win it. Which is why this year and that year are a farce.
Seibold won it in 2018 ? Reason being they yapped up his efforts getting Rabbits from mid table year before into 3rd or 4th ? Also the hype was it was his first season.
If finals counted, it should, i would agree that Holbrook deserved it. BA did not deserve it, he was the one that led the eels to the 2018 spoon, not because they had a bad roster, they didn't, they were a top 4 team in 2017.
It was a combination of bad coaching and poor player attitude that won them the spoon in 2018, the same reason the k fights won the spoon last year. The knights roster is pretty damn good, stacked with rep players so going from spoon to 7th isn't as impressive as it seems, getting to the gf is a different story.
2017 Parra were also using a cap that was 700 k less than the rest of the nrl part of the cap penalty the year previous not a lot will say anything about that.
2018 much like the mess Parra were still in after consecutive 10 mill plus loss seasons the team resourcing behind the scenes was cut in half also again not many will say that either.
Gurr mentioned at the time after the cap mess in 2016 there was serious reputational off the field damage incurred because of it.
When they did get the books back in order and Gurr and co righted the ship they went on there run from 19-22.
IMO we were a top 4 team in 2016 not with standing the cap fraud.We lost 5 players and 12 points halfway during the season and still ended up knocking on the door of the 8.That's was a wasted time purely because of off field behind the scenes incompetence.We've see a little of it now just in another guise.
People are harping on about old mate at the Waaaaaaa' s having injures. The Knights endured a pretty rough unavailability list themselves. Had some lengthy suspensions, and started the season with only 5 rep players , not exactly " stacked " , ones Frizell who last played origin with Paulo . And Dyl Boobs missed almost half the season.
New Zealand on the other hand have 10 rep players , now that's a " stacked team"
The reason why BA should have won it was due to the squad he had to work with. It's a dogshit roster. Terrible . To get that team to finish 5th was an achievement in itself. It's a bottom 4 roster . The only reason many of that team weren't playing reserve grade was due to Arthur squeezing every last drop of effort out of them . Scrap yard build.
The fact this is the first time Nathan cleary has won shows what a farce the dally m's are.
Yes and no, issue with Cleary is there were seasons where he missed a lot of games so he couldn't get points. Also, Edwards and Yeo and the likes would take points off him too.
That is where it is flawed, the fact other players take points off him. Ponga won it because he was the only player at the knights consistently getting points. The 3,2,1 system is flawed, every player should get a rating out of 10 for every game, the player with the highest tally at the end wins.
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