Storm Should Play for Points : Hayne

Parramatta superstar Jarryd Hayne has an opinion and isn't afraid to share it. Hayne who has already weighed into the salary cap debate has recently discussed options dealing with the Melbourne Storm and their current playing situation.

Hayne has revealed that he is personally unhappy with the current punishment for the storm as he feels that it leads to an unbalanced competition. He believes that with the current situation proceedings it places opposition teams in impossible positions with fears of injury to players rising all in an attempt to beat an illegal team.

Hayne suggested that the NRL implement a system that invovles the storm demoting players each week in order to bring them into line with the salary cap regulations hence insuring that the team on the feild is legal.

Many fans appear to be unhappy with the Storms predicament with most believing that it has tarnished the whole competition. Already teams have struggled to beat the overpriced Melbournians and this is a trend that fans do not want to see continue. Fears for the health of star players has also been raised, especially evident in the injury of Jonathan Thurston, when playing against the Storm.

How would all of you Parramatta fans feel if Hayne got injured while playing against the Storm?

 

ElDoughan signing out.

 

P.S. This is my first report so some feed back would be appreciated as well as your thoughts.

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  • Here's 3 cents worth of reply ElD. I fully agree with Hayne's view.
    The Storm could - if they wanted too - rotate players to keep the 'team' legal. The NRL got caught with their pants pulled and had a brain snap. How they - or anyone else - can expect a team to play every week knowing they are only there in the hope they may get a rep jumper sometime down the track is ridiculous.
    I have not heard any comment on how the over payments are going to be reduced, nor have I heard any constructive comment on any action by the NRL to redeem their "squeeky" (?) clean reputation.
    Interestingly enough Alistair Lynch - Ex Bris Lions AFL great - has a column in the Sunday Mail where he put up a very intelligent argument on how to possibly resolve the salary cap issue. He openly admits that he does NOT have intimate knowledge of the NRL cap system (neither do I) however the cap was rorted in AFL previously and they introduced the draft system that has stabilised their code.
    League lost a court battle to introduce a similar system a few years ago and since then it has been scrambling to keep it's credibility intact because of clubs rorting the system.
    If the Storm are obliged to field a team each week then that team are entitled to play for the 2 points IF THEY FIELD A LEGAL TEAM as suggested by Hayne.
    Centrebet have voiced their concern at the Storm being in a position to influence the outcome of the top eight if they want to by playing hard or playing soft against selected teams.
    I know back when the dinosaurs and myself went round we never played for second place and I do not think the Storm will either. But; that said, do Centrebet have a case?
    We have a long way to go before the season is complete and when the Storm eventually begin to lose their current rage will they still have the mental toughness to go out and get bashed every week for no real reward. People are people and I think it is highly probable that the Storm could come off the pace and inadvertantly miss a tackle that could have been made, fumble a ball that should have been caught and not break the line when they had a chance.
    Playing for NOTHING is IMO going to take the edge off their game no matter how hard they try to be competetive. The Storm must have something more than a stale carrott to play for each week.
    Didn't the Dogs only lose the competion points they had gained up until they got caught out - Why do the Storm have to play the entire season without the opportunity to gain points?
    As for any team losing a player to injury when playing the Storm - mate that is on the cards every game regardless.
    Never happy to see players get hurt but it's a hard game and there is always walking wounded in every camp no matter who we play.
    As for the Storm tarnishing the game as a whole - get real - there has been too many tarnishing episodes going on for years.
    People love drama and the NRL is always guaranteed to deliver. More often than not it delivers this drama off the field.
    • Rotating players does nothing to reduce a teams cap, because the cap is on your top 25 players. Fail.
    • Centrebet do not have a case. As far as I know they do not pay royalties to the NRL as is common in the US/Europe... (although I admit I am not 100% sure).
    • The Storm are different to the dogs because of the time of year they got caught. If the Storm were only penalised the points they have thus gained, they would still be playing each week with an illegally formed team, so that team can not be allowed to play together, this season or any in the future.
  • That was a great and worthwhile reply Colin, Thanks
  • Hi ElDoughan!

    I am going to have a go at formulating a response to this, but before I do, I just want to be clear that I know very little about the salary cap, so please excuse me if what I say is wrong.

    I think that what the Storm has done has really damaged the competition this year. While there are a variety of solutions as to what should happen with the Storm regarding Season 2010, almost every option has issues.

    1. Hayne's suggestion - While it is quite a good one, the problem with this is that the NRL have only really just begun their investigation. As was revealed last week, it appears that the Storm were rorting even more than once thought. So if the Storm were forced to demote players to be in line with the salary cap, with how much over they are at the moment, if greater infrignements are found down the line and more players need to be demoted, obviously those teams playing them later down the track have an advantage.

    2. Get rid of them for this year - This is also problematic as it would lead to financial demise. The NRL has TV contracts which hold that they need to televise a certain number of games per year, the new Stadium has just been opened in Melbourne and also, season tickets etc would have to be refunded.

    3. Award every team with two points who has been beaten by the Storm - This doesn't work either because what about the teams that beat them, even while fielding an illegal team.

    I really think the NRL has made the best of what is an utterly reprehensible situation, especially since investigations continue and we don't know the extent of the breach.

    P.S. Colin - the situation with the Dogs was different - the infringement was found well toward the back end of the season. This has happened so early, that really, no matter what the NRL does there are losers and winners.
    • Hey TB.
      My mistake I thought the Dogs got caught around mid season or earlier.
      I am having a bit of trouble getting my head around how this issue has done so much damage to Rugby League as a whole.
      From what I have read and seen on tv there seems to be a major orchestra conductor with a few assistants to pull this rort off.
      It is not Nat'l Rugby League that instigated this rort it was people in in the Storm camp.
      That being the case isn't it the perpetrator and those involved with the crime who disgrace themselves. After all Melbourne Rebels ar looking for a new CEO aren't they?
      I look at the fact that the NRL came straight out and told the world - "Hey we got some bad apples and we are going to squash em" as showing they have some sort of credibilty as opposed to Rugby League being disgraced by a few.

      Your first point of what may be found down the track is valid re "legal" teams but I still think if the Storm are to compete and make it a real competition they must have something to play for.

      Be interested to get views on this.
  • Yeah but as suggested by Hayne if they sit out two of their stars each week then this should place them under the cap for that week. Though as Tinker said as the full extent of the rorts havent been found it is hard to find a suitable punishment.
    • That just makes no sense. The 17 players who take the field on game day are not the only players in your cap! We have Eric Grothe currently sitting out due to a knee injury but that doesn't put him outside our cap. The only way they can get players out of their cap is to get rid of them altogether.
  • Yeah, great post EID. And so glad to see that the 'we should be premiers' argument is disappearing. Jarryd's got the right idea~- the Storm should be in the comp somehow, on a footing that makes it fair. How to achieve that will take a compromise but it'll be worth it.
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