Look I know it's tough to watch, especially with the effort that was put in against the titans but as a fan base need to stick solid behind the group of players we have left. Yes injuries have decimated the team but also the effort yesterday was unacceptable both can be true. Expecting a much better effort against the dogs this week but we can't really make many changes to the 17 due to injury. Terrible effort yesterday but it's a new week so we move forward. And yes our recruitment team is horrible and needs to go lol.
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I won't boo the players or Ryles, but I'll boo how low iq the R&R team iis.
Ryles made culture and identity a huge focus on his pitch as to his vision for the Eels.
This weekend Ryles found out that culture doesn't start and end on the footy field. Culture starts from the top. If the folks off the field aren't performing and nothing happens to them, then why would the folks on the field feel like they have to perform?
This is walk the walk stuff. Culture doesn't sit in a Powerpoint deck, it sits in the actions that every single person takes.
Our recruitment has failed on multiple big name targets. What happened?
Our retention failed on several big names. What happened?
Culture starts at the top, so I sure as hell am not going to blame those down the bottom for simply doing what they see. The players (and Ryles) are in a culture of accepted mediocrity.
The way BA dealt with this was to crete a seige mentality where it was BA and the team against EVERYONE (the NRL, the club, the fans - everyone). They held themselves to their own standards and simply cut off from everyone else...and it both sucked for fans (no connection with us) and it wasn't sustainable.
If you don't fix a culture problem from the top as soon as it starts, it'll spread and embed and take even longer to change.
Captain, every first grader knows that there is always something knocking at the door of their position: father time, lower grader, incoming recruit, poor form. Thus what's happening accountability-wise to some club manager or football operations staff is simply not directly connected to how a player views their position. I just don't buy the validity of loose metaphors that imagine seamless flows of culture. It's a disjointed flow at best.
I am simply unconvinced by almost all the outbreak of sack the club talk that has accompanied the Eels poor play. For a specific reason: loose cultural flow metaphors are not picking out direct causal chains. An example is many are pushing for Su'A to arrive early, thus simultaneously lambasting recruitment while positing a recruit as a fix. JFC is it too much to ask for coherent critiques of the dismal Eels performance?
I'm pretty sure that at this point a blood sacrifice is required to appease the Football Gods Daz. and Margo Kneel is a valid recruit for the job. If Jim doesn't throw him under the bus soon he might just end up under there himself
I agree with you Daz that it's not as explicit as "well that guy didn't do it so neither will I". I don't mean that it's as simple as that.
This isn't a new phenomenon, it's well studied - the normalisation of deviance. The more popular saying is "the standards you walk past are the ones you accept". Not a vibe, a studied and documented phenomenon.
Culture is a sticky beast. It's what makes us feel comfortable swearing around our friends, but not around our parents. Our friends accept and encourage it, our parents hold a firm line and it's punished with consequences. That then translates from swearing to other behaviours, you find boundaries from what you see others get away with.
Watch the footage of Bellamy after the Storm loss. He was literally pointing and shouting at players. It's well known that certain standards are acceptable there, and others are not. If it's not acceptable you will lose your spot in the side and you potentially will lose your employment at the Storm. It's on constant display. The Storm hire and fire based on cultural fit.
That's set established culture. The Storm don't accept or tolerate laziness or losing. The Storm don't tolerate putting the individual above the group.
What's the culture of the Eels, as a collective? What's our DNA? Not as a playing group, as a club.
It matters. And the moment someone gets away with anything counter culture, the normalisation of deviance begins.
My 2c - We have a culture of accepting mediocrity. I think we, as fans, do too. I'm not saying don't hold the players to account - of course we should, I'm saying don't just hold the players to account. Apply the excellence lens to our entire organisation. Otherwise we're just walking past the low standard we're accepting.
(BTW Daz I know I'm preaching to the converted on most of this and explaining stuff you would already know, just writing it out for the sake of clarity for all 🙂)
Been on similar mindset for about the last 3 years now.
Put simply there is no championship dna in the building so I guess they don't understand how big a culture shift is or what it looks like so the powers that be stick with what they no and are.
The power brokers we have now are by design Parra were run like a rabble for so long we are now just moved to another version of it without all the governance drama.
Make no mistake though I know the DNA isn't in this club to build a champion read it how you will.If we aren't looking at improvement across the board excuse the pun then we are short changing ourselves and we'll continue this well travelled road of mediocrity.
If you don't fix a culture problem from the top as soon as it starts, it'll spread...like anti-kaisen. You incrementally get crappier & crappier 'til you are nought but a steaming pile of platitudes
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maybe hannay should have been our option? look what he has done in his first year? i was on the ryles wagon, and i know we have alot of injuries but we had a full side round 1. Just so disappointed after yesterdays game, i know alot of us are. With more injuries and a confident dogs side on sunday, this could get real messy! im on the got nothing to lose so throw the young future stars in. But maybe thats why im not the coach....he probably knows the players alot better and been in and around high level football for years. Guess i just have to trust in ryles and trust the process.
Im telling you the coach is not the issue. Swap Ryles and Hannay and the Eels still have the same result. It's the administration. The Titans roster isn't amazing but it's way better than ours. I know nothing about their juniors but I'd imagine they'd have some weapons waiting in lower grades. Did you see Cooper Bai? He's 19. He recently re-signed with the Titans even when his Dad was telling him to go to Melbourne. He's a beast and he's 19. If he was an Eel you'd bet your house on him leaving. The Titans now have Matty Johns and Gordon Tallis as owners. There's no way they're letting rep quality talent walk out of the club. They'll find a way to keep them. Whereas we have MON and co and seem to enjoy watching rep quality walk out. All our problems stem from the administration. They're all culpable for the state of our roster. Injuries have just made a dud roster even worse.
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