Should yhere be a time limit for cap indiscretions

Should there be a limit to how many years back the league should punish for?If the league uncovered salary cap rorting from say 5 years ago should that team be punished?The current situation from the Eels relates to 3 seasons ago for which we have already been punished sufficiently for. I dont believe that any of the allegations affect this years cap and if they did Watmoughs retirement should put us under.If they looked into the books for the Broncos and the Roosters from previous years and found that they were guilty should they be punished or let go

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  • I think there is merit in what you say.
    I'd be all for the stripping of points for the year/s it relates to.
    It could be seen as goving us advantage for this year though and perhaps that's why they want a penalty for this year. Maybe we recruited players we wouldn't have been able to recruit otherwise. Maybe deals were somewhat back ended, making it possible to be under the cap this year when we otherwise would not have been.

    I also think there is a strong element of the NRL wanting to be seen as taking this kind of indiscretion seriously. If they don't send a hard-hitting message then they'll be seen to be soft.
  • Yup but is the NRL where logic goes out the window. He the most simple example. That rule where if the attaching team kicks the ball on any tackle , let's say it's the 5th for arguments sake and it touches the ref, instead of either play-on or a scrum feed to attacking team on the same tackle they kicked, they instead get the scrum feed but tackle count restarts. This was maybe relevant 100yrs ago when scrums were 50/50. Such a simple rule to change. Should take about 2mins of greenburgs time if he understands the game. Anyways it's a shame these people who know very little about the sport of rugby league run our game.
    • Absolutely , ffs , relevance , surely that's logic .
  • I don't know if you could allow clubs to get away with it just because it happened in previous seasons. I doubt the NRL would very often find out about current breaches in the current season. It seems to come out later.
    The same could be said about whether or not the breaches resulted in a good performance by the team or not. Doesn't really matter, a breach is a breach and even if it's not fair on the current players or supporters, the NRL has to do something.
    • Spot on Sharkies, the blind bias from eels fans over this is pretty embarrassing, whats worse is they dont even realise they are doing it, the rose coloured eels glasses are effecting their vision.

    • Yeah I think every clubs supporters don't really want to face it when their club has done something wrong. It's understandable, especially when they're having such a good year. But you have to ask yourself what you'd be saying if it was happening at another club. I don't think people would be as willing to just let it go.
    • Browny, I agree all clubs should be scrutinised and if anything found, they should be punished. I'd be surprised if we had a problem with TPA's though, as we don't seem to have the contacts to even get club sponsors, let alone extras for the players.
    • I agree Macy. We don't actually know what's happened yet, only what the media is ramming down everyone's throats and I definitely know how much shit they can talk about certain clubs, mine included. Just have to wait and see what the NRL say when the investigation is concluded.
      But if something has happened, even if it was 5 years ago, they will have to take some action, even though it isn't fair on the new players or fans. Otherwise it's not being fair to the clubs that haven't done the wrong thing (even if there are many who just haven't been caught yet).
      And yes, we do struggle with finding sponsors. Every year it seems, although it's looking a little better than previous years, that's for sure. When we were really poor we didn't even spend the whole cap!
    • Hopefully it won't be as bad as it seems Macy. The media always make it out to be worse than it actually is.

      Frank, we have got a much improved squad but it has been gradually built up over years. Who knows, you could be right and if we are breaking the rules, by all means, the NRL should punish us. But it's too difficult to say one way or another because we don't know how the various players' contracts are structured For instance, how much is back ended, how much is being paid by former clubs, how much is deducted for our long serving player, Gallen?
      Also, although we don't have access to many companies willing to be TPA's in the shire, I would say the majority would be sponsoring Gallen and now Maloney.
      Gallen, Lewis and Heighington are only signed til the end of the year. Jack Bird and Valentine Holmes are only signed til the end of next year. Wade Graham will be next to step into the long serving player role in a couple of years, so his amount will be reduced. Brisbane were (maybe still are) paying $300k of Ben Barba's salary. Tigers did the same with Heighington and Fifita when they came.
      We also had a lot of money left in the cap after we got rid of Todd Carney.

      Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Sharks are angels and couldn't possibly be guilty of being dodgy (ASADA anyone?). I just don't think we have the money and access to sponsors that richer clubs have to enable them to do it. But I could be wrong....
  • Well criminal offences have statute of limitations - so yes !
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