Ponderings of a Parra fan after the apocolypse

Given the past few months and all thats gone, i sit here on this Sunday morning looking back and offer some of my thoughtsPondering 1 - With all the rorting, dodgy deels, brown paper bags, illegal TPA's and plain cheating over the last 5 seasons we couldn't even manage to make the top 8 once ! Couldn't make the top 50% of teams once! This is a very difficult pill to swallow ! We all realise you are only a murderer if you are convicted, a tax evader if you get caught. Surely this fact is not lost by the NRL ! The concept of a salary cap and all clubs playing by the rules in an honest and fair way is fairty tale stuff. Much like the concept of socialism where every body is equal !Pondering 2 - The so called 'gang of five'. Lets think about it, what have the members and fans been demanding of our board the last few years? Apart from the end of factionalism and disfunctionality we have demanded they assemble a competitive first grade NRL team that competes each week and serves us proud ! Well this is the first year since 2010 we have had that. So my thought here is - if we don't rort, dont cheat we would have had zero chance of assembling this side and probably would of been around where we are anyway!So the gang of five are guilty of trying to compete with the likes of the broncos, cowboys, storm, roosters and bulldogs (obviously not very well cause they got caught) but they have not been found guilty of lining their own pockets. Every allegation is around paying players albeit illegally by the NRL rules. we are in a market system where supply and demand dictates if you dont offer the coin we dont get and keep the players we want, simple as that !Pondering 3 - Ok lets have the clean out we need and start again, but we would have to be real unicorns to believe we can assemble a new board that is completey honest with the salary cap and still have a squad that can win a comp - we need people that can cook the books and bury them so deep they never get read ! You can bet the bronco's and cowboys have been digging deaper holes the last few months!Looking forward to reading other fans thoughts ?

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  • Nailed it!!!
  • I agree. they were "cheating" to compete. has the nrl thought for a minute what would have happened if the board didn't try to keep up with the Jones's. The fact is we weren't even keeping up with the Jones's. The Jones's aka Broncos cowboys roosters storm dogs were out buying bmw's and 65 foot maxi yachts and we were at Mike Hunts second hand car and boat lot buying a 2010 tritium and a 12 foot tinny. Wonder what the scores would've been like if we didn't....68 nil, 76 - 4... yep the simple fact is Sharpe and co trusted Seward the dog.
  • 100% - that's the real storey here ! These 5 blokes are just the fall guys. Unfortunately you won't read any of this from the news Corp media or any debate about the real situation in the host of talk shows - why ? You guessed it they are all paid by either channel 9. Fox or news Corp !
  • Spot on, I didnt blame the board for cheating and in a way I congratulate them for having the balls to do it and I hope the next board does the same only this time a lot smarter. We are kidding ourselves if we think we will ever win a comp without cheating the system....it's impossible under the system in place with TPAs and the way the NRL investigate teams. The fact is no club has been caught without the help of whistleblowers.

    The one thing though that I will say is the only bit of this whole saga that has pissed me off without obviously getting caught is that once we were caught we had an opportunity to own up to our mistakes, take ownership and "beg" for leniency which would have resulted in a lighter penalty but instead we fought it to the very end and took no accountability for our actions, the board were toast from the minute they got caught and the right thing to do was to try and help move the club forward but instead they were only interested in keeping the lies going and put themselves before the fans and the club.
  • Nah, I disagree - you're still a murderer and tax evader even if you don't get caught. The key is that you only get PUNISHED if you get caught. But I do agree the cap is completely ridiculous and needs to be changed.

    The gang of five are guilty of failing to take the many opportunities to say 'there were some people here before us that did some crap stuff', we need to sort this out. That is their massive failing - of stopping the free fall into this pile of shit. It's not about the five cheating, it's about them putting their heads in the fucking sand and failing to pull us out of the nose dive once the NRL started banging on the door. But they put themselves first. 

  • I am not sure it would of been as simple as 'coming clean' on all the previous board dealings with the NRL and wiping the slate clean so to speak. As that would of implicated all the current deals for this year and next and even if we had done that we would of had to shed players and comply anyway. It probably would have saved their jobs but the end result would of been the same. There are some things in this world that should not be spoken of and shared with the worlds media - plans of world domination, mass scale multi-national company tax evasion, country invasions (raping and pillaging) and salary cap rorting amongst them!
    • The big question is would it have still cost us 12 points in our best season in a very long time?

    • That's a fair question. Who knows ? The one thing I would really like to understand is what was the extent of what we did admit to that culminated in the original suspended 4 point penalty against the 12 point penalty related indiscretions? Have the NRL double dipped? I mean you dunk the chip in the dip take a bite and end it !
  • So let's make one clear distinction here. Just like there is a clear distinction between tax avoidance and tax cheating (ie one you use the rules to your advantage, the second is you break the rules), so too are their legal TPAs and illegal TPAs.

    The necessity to go down the illegal TPA route is actually a failure from not being able to execute legitimate TPAs. 

    Clearly, the Broncos have been highly effective in creating an environment that fosters TPAs. It's fair to argue that there are inherent advantages they have in that regard, but there are many things that a club can do within the rules to give their players the greatest opportunity to land TPAs, like giving them extensive media and speaking training, ensuring as part of their development, they learn to network and keep up their education, and so on. This is good for your brand and it's good for the players and the code.

    • True Phil, but that only works for players developed within the club. How does a club attract established players to our club without 'ready to go TPAs'?
      I'm starting to wonder if there is any such thing as legit TPAs for many players, or at least very significant ones.

      Case in point, Foz at signing time last year, his management were not able to source legit TPAs, hence his full contract included in our cap. That was a shock being one of the greats at the time.
      TPAs should follow the player not the club, by the rules. Is that correct?
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