Players Market Value v Salary Cap

Who within the NRL determines a players market value for Salary cap purposes ( no doubt the salary cap auditor) v their actual paid salary with TPA'sAs I read today that Matt Gillett is set to take less money to stay at Broncos with talks that he has offers in the $700k range from other teams but is willing to be paid substantially less to stayIn my opinion that makes his market value $700K and that is what his salary at the Broncos should be reflected as within the salary cap, however because it is the Broncos I'm sure it will not beThis competition will never be fair and equitable while ever these types of scenarios are allowedIt is hard to believe that anyone within the NRL hierarchy could believe that Newcastle for instance are even in the same ball park as Broncos, Melbourne etc when it comes to a fair and equitable competitionI understand there are always winners and losers but in my mind how can Manly for existence have the most highly paid player in the competition when the world's best player is at the Cowboys.My question is what intelligent ideas can you come up with, that would repair the current system and make for a fairer competition?Interested in some good forward thinking discussion

Like your idea Muttman nice and transparent. The only reason the NRL may not like to do this,as it will show up what everybody already knows anyway, re the unfair playing field.

So much needless pain could be so easily avoided with full investigations at time of signing and once checked out, only then would the TPA be registered.
Eg as in the Wati case, it should've been relatively easy to have been nipped in the bud before registering, with the aid of a few relevant questions to player manager AND club on the NRL part. Then of course there would've been no conflict and the arms length rule would've been discovered before getting this particular TPA off the ground early in the piece, due to undue dumbness in this case.

There could be an NRL dept for TPAs, at worst it would generate lots of work for forensic accountants and save the ridiculousness of going back years in time to recheck...may even save the game.

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The Captain June 26, 2016 at 2:38pm

The highest club offer for a player is the value that hits the clubs salary cap. This only applies to officially tabled offers to stop clubs from just inflating opposition player prices.

This way Gillett can still stay with the Broncos for $400k, but they cop the $700k to their cap to ensure a level playing field.

However this Gillett precedent is quite timely in case Hayne wants to sign with the Eels for $400k...that'd be okay with the NRL right?
- macybrown > The Captain June 26, 2016 at 3:41pm
  
  Well maybe when it's the case that a player signs for 300k less, the NRL need to do an investigation ala eels style to ensure the TPAs are legit, players bank accounts the works...doesn't stop cash I guess. Cash is always King.
Gerringong Lad June 26, 2016 at 2:54pm

Hey Capt, good explanation and yes very timely for the Hayne scenario
Well if we remember Gasnier was allowed to come back cheap and win a comp for the dragons, do the NRL remember the same as we do
- macybrown > Gerringong Lad June 26, 2016 at 3:19pm
  
  Captain , Seriously would be our rotten luck that they address this age long dilemma at pricesly the wrong time for the Hayne return.
  Has this actually happened in the Gillett case?
macybrown June 26, 2016 at 3:16pm

I've always wondered this too G.L.

Like in Milford case, Canberra table an offer of 900k+ but Broncos have him on books for 450k. Now ppl will say it's a one horse town etc but that's a lot of TPAs even if miff takes a paycut to go home.

The other thing that eats at me, is how the NRL in infinite wisdom, decided last year back in July 15 when we signed Foz that his TPA was to be included in his salary of $1.2m (on books) because his 1.2m signing salary was widely reported and therefore concluded that it wasn't at arms length.
So a player like Foz going back last year was unable to attract ANY legit TPAs? What is his manager doing? Or is money in the NRL as dead as the GBP?
- Yobz > macybrown June 26, 2016 at 8:21pm
  
  Clearly he had SOME TPAs as he was going to sue Manly over them. So that amount should be taken off our books.
Gerringong Lad June 26, 2016 at 3:34pm

Not at this stage sure, just reading in media today, so I am only assuming it will
Muttman June 26, 2016 at 4:03pm

All player salaries should be paid directly from the NRL to the player
All TPA's should be paid to the NRL who then pay the player.
This way no player can receive income directly from 3rd parties. Everything is registered.
Importantly ALL PLAYER PAYMENTS INCLUDING TPA's should be published.

Publicly Listed companies publish income of their executives. The NFL publish player wages. It's not unprecedented. Only this level of transparency can avoid rorting. Whilst it remains behind closed doors there will slways be problems.
- Phil Mann > Muttman June 26, 2016 at 4:08pm
  
  Still not going to prevent brown paper bags or bad putting.
- macybrown > Muttman June 26, 2016 at 4:15pm
  
  Like your idea Muttman nice and transparent. The only reason the NRL may not like to do this,as it will show up what everybody already knows anyway, re the unfair playing field.
  
  So much needless pain could be so easily avoided with full investigations at time of signing and once checked out, only then would the TPA be registered.
  Eg as in the Wati case, it should've been relatively easy to have been nipped in the bud before registering, with the aid of a few relevant questions to player manager AND club on the NRL part. Then of course there would've been no conflict and the arms length rule would've been discovered before getting this particular TPA off the ground early in the piece, due to undue dumbness in this case.
  
  There could be an NRL dept for TPAs, at worst it would generate lots of work for forensic accountants and save the ridiculousness of going back years in time to recheck...may even save the game.

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