Better then what Riley could have provided for 30mins cause thats all he played. Never came back. TDS is not up to it defensively. Just a highlights reel hooker.
His service was good enough but he isn't creative or a running threat but he can play as a middle forward so I think playing two straight out hookers should end for the eels at least in the short term.
I would start Edwards and have smith on the bench and give tds a few games in reserve grade to work on a couple of aspects of his game.
Well as Ryles said, Edwards gives you that versatility. PM is right, Edwards gave us what Smith does sort of, but can play middle. Thats what Ryles prefers a Hooker that's not specialist. Helps your bench rotation out massively.
Very fair comment and that is exactly Smith. He ain't going to set tries up much at all but will give you good service and tackle well. Da Silva is not the defensive liability he was last year, he is steadily improving and Ryles giving him 60+ mins the last 3 games would have done wonders for him. He's still 21. I went hard on him to start the year, but yeah realised he is still a toddler in NRL terms. I wouldn't say Da Silva in Cup is needed, he needs time in top grade with the speed.
But I think you are right, Da Silva is the plan but Smith is that bridge for now.
Smith has fallen away badly in defence. I don't know if he's lost bulk to become quicker, but even in reserve grade yesterday there were plenty of meters made by running at Smith. He was very poor, and took wrong options on a couple of occasions.
I can't see him getting back into first grade until he gets bigger and fitter. It could be that he's been carrying his injury since round 1. Thats the reason we started with a bigger body in Edwards to stop the rot in the middle.
Tallyn is a bigger body that Smith. Give him another pre season and he'll be even better.
I hear what you are saying, and you are right, but that sounds like what we said in the early 90s when we never expected to come close to winning games. As a club we do need to be so much better than what has been dished up this season. There has been some good things, but there has also been some really bad errors and poor decision making. It's hard to see things getting much better in coming years without some very key signings.
Agree, thought they played well considering the injuries and continual swapping and changing of players some out of position. They had the game won except for some really costly errors, poor passing and frantic play especially in the early 2nd half. Frustrating really and to make it worse the Melbourne Storm will now leap frog Parra on the NRL ladder
Joash should stop as if he is playing backyard footy. His no look passes had caused us some games. His trying to milk a penalty for a 'strip' is very amateurist. He's given his all but need to clean up these errors and actions. It was a game we could have won.
This is who we are. We'll always be proud, no matter the result. Bloody hell. We're losing to Newcastle. What's wrong with you all? No doubt we're a hopeless rubbish team. Same crap every weekend. And we have to be proud of it. Good effort doesn't get us to the final, lads. The result is what counts. What have we become, unbelievable?
"It's a sad reflection of where this club is and what small aspersions we have that a 4 point loss is seem as a good thing.
Yes were hit with injuries but the depth and quality is so low I see glimmers of hope but nothing to get my hope up. "
"Smith has fallen away badly in defence. I don't know if he's lost bulk to become quicker, but even in reserve grade yesterday there were plenty of meters made by running at Smith. He was very poor, and took wrong options on a couple of…"
"after just watching the replay the first thing needed is this week they should all be put on the tackling bags and work their arse off and learn how to tackle. To me Iongi is not a full back, always out of position, can't tackle, should be moved to…"
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Better then what Riley could have provided for 30mins cause thats all he played. Never came back. TDS is not up to it defensively. Just a highlights reel hooker.
I think Da Silva is ok in defence, can get better but I think that's harsh on Tallyn.
His service was good enough but he isn't creative or a running threat but he can play as a middle forward so I think playing two straight out hookers should end for the eels at least in the short term.
I would start Edwards and have smith on the bench and give tds a few games in reserve grade to work on a couple of aspects of his game.
Well as Ryles said, Edwards gives you that versatility. PM is right, Edwards gave us what Smith does sort of, but can play middle. Thats what Ryles prefers a Hooker that's not specialist. Helps your bench rotation out massively.
Very fair comment and that is exactly Smith. He ain't going to set tries up much at all but will give you good service and tackle well. Da Silva is not the defensive liability he was last year, he is steadily improving and Ryles giving him 60+ mins the last 3 games would have done wonders for him. He's still 21. I went hard on him to start the year, but yeah realised he is still a toddler in NRL terms. I wouldn't say Da Silva in Cup is needed, he needs time in top grade with the speed.
But I think you are right, Da Silva is the plan but Smith is that bridge for now.
Smith has fallen away badly in defence. I don't know if he's lost bulk to become quicker, but even in reserve grade yesterday there were plenty of meters made by running at Smith. He was very poor, and took wrong options on a couple of occasions.
I can't see him getting back into first grade until he gets bigger and fitter. It could be that he's been carrying his injury since round 1. Thats the reason we started with a bigger body in Edwards to stop the rot in the middle.
Tallyn is a bigger body that Smith. Give him another pre season and he'll be even better.
I hear what you are saying, and you are right, but that sounds like what we said in the early 90s when we never expected to come close to winning games. As a club we do need to be so much better than what has been dished up this season. There has been some good things, but there has also been some really bad errors and poor decision making. It's hard to see things getting much better in coming years without some very key signings.
Agree, thought they played well considering the injuries and continual swapping and changing of players some out of position. They had the game won except for some really costly errors, poor passing and frantic play especially in the early 2nd half. Frustrating really and to make it worse the Melbourne Storm will now leap frog Parra on the NRL ladder
Joash should stop as if he is playing backyard footy. His no look passes had caused us some games. His trying to milk a penalty for a 'strip' is very amateurist. He's given his all but need to clean up these errors and actions. It was a game we could have won.
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