Mark o'neill
* failed with the get out clauses
* failed with attracting top players
* The Brown contract was a complete stuff up
* Needed Ryles to hold his hand to finally fix development, where previously reserve grade was a holding yard for rejected players
* lost out on recent big name signings
Shane Richardson
* A proven winner
* Helped Souths become champions
Took the Cronulla sharks from perennial losers to grand finalists
* attracted many big names to the Tigers despite being 3 times losers. Jerome Luai, Taylan May ect
* A noted track record of success and attracting big talent.
Make it happen now.
At the moment - we're wasting time and O'neill a dead man walking
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We need to know what's going wrong in the first place, you certainly wouldn't stop someone like Richardson even coming in as a consultant for our recruitment team to learn off.
Richardson has 30 years experience and has been at Cronulla, Penrith, Hull, Souths, Tigers
Have a look at his record and the players he has signed from other clubs.
Jarohme Luai Penrith to Tigers
Sunia Turuva Penrith to Tigers
Terryl May to Tigers
Greg Inglis Melbourne to Souths
Sam Burgess England to Souths
Latrell Mitchell Roosters to Souths
Pinched premiership winning coach coach John Lang Cronulla to Penrith
Preston Campbell Dally M winner to Penrith
Signed representaive half back Paul Green to Cronulla
Yep great write up. Exactly why we need to get Richardson.
Too true, he has what MON obviously doesn't which is that ability to talk a player into the club. Like Anderson at Dragons would have talked Keaon into coming. That is why I have been in favour bringing Brian Smith back. Also, getting Luai gets the other players like Turuva and May over. We need that player where other players go "hang on, if he's going there I want in."
When I spoke to my mate who knew James Galvin, he said that James told him he love Ryles and was so impressed with him. I asked what about MON and all James said was "nice guy" nothing massive nothing like impressive just a nice guy.
We need a prick like though Tripp was a prick to us in this Lomax saga he is the type we need at Parra. I wonder when it gets to the point where Ryles, as I believe he is the one to start the ball rolling as he is not getting what he needs with so many failed attempts, where MON is moved on for someone else.
i reckon Richo would come here too. He is spoke about a lot with Penrith's and Souths premiership drought, he would want the same for Parra.
MON's forte is bargains. He would be great for Perth for example, new squad who need to ace depth to be competitive and would be able to find those gems that need a new start or haven't been given a start.
The stink around our club as perenial losers....no new head od football can fix that...the only thing that can is winning on the pitch.....at the moment that looks problematic....we become regulars in the finals we get tje elite player.
Further Ryles has surounded himself with proven losers ....
but hey its only Rd 1 ....a win in Brisbane is a must for our season
I know your can't keep them all but not keeping sanders who wins the game for the raiders and buying a reserve grade half in pezet. Is a bit hard to take. Hopefully we don't lose to many from this crop coming through.
Well Sanders path was blocked. By the time he left Brown and Moses still had contracts til 2029 at least. Despite being options they had deals.
It would have been a bigger risk letting Brown or Moses walk to accommodate Sanders.
Who would have foreseen Newcastle offering insane money.
Cannot live in Hindsight.
But that's the thing. Sanders path was not blocked at all. When someone actually looked at Brown's contract he was only contracted until the end of 2025. The club could not have fucked this situation up anymore if they tried. If the R&R team were across the details they could have either solidified Brown's options so he was locked in or locked in Sanders because Brown was leaving.
Sanders and Brown both leaving was ridiculous and straight up incompetence from our R & R team.
It was, as he had control of his contract. If you are Sanders' agent and Parra say here is a 3 year deal til 2027. You see Moses signed til 2028 with options and Brown til 2031 with options. But Canberra have a 3 year deal with Fogarty having one year left. Canberra are the option as way better chance to play sooner. Parra would do a lot to keep Moses and Brown. Again nobody foresaw Brown getting $1.4mil.
I have gone through this so many times and people just look at it now and say path was not blocked. It was. You cannot tell me there is was situation where Parramatta could say to Sanders you'll get game time full-time soon. Added to that if his agent said let Brown or Moses go, they will say no way.
Parra had options in the deal believing he would stay. Hindsight now says "oh we should have kept Sanders" well when he left Brown still had a deal til 2031 and Moses then 2029 by the time Brown made his call.
Parra want to keep Sanders. You go to Brown and say we need you to commit today and take your options off the table. If he hesitates you give him permission to shop around. Either way it needs to get resolved because we have a young half we do not want to let go of.
When Ryles came here one of the first things he did was to solidify Moses' contract to remove options. It can be done.
What you don't do is allow young players to leave and cross your fingers that your current halves choose to stay if they feel like it.
Though I believe they wouldn't want to take the risk of Brown leaving. That's now changed with Ryles but Moses more so was sweetened with captaincy and be committed.
but also who is to say we wanted him as a 6 and he wanted to be a 6? Similar to Pezet at the moment.
But at same time that regime, still here, admitted to their mistakes and now hopefully do not go down that route again. I've come across to Talagi being a dumb choice to give him an option.
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