Kelma to explore other options

Personally I don't really mind this..his a rocks and diamonds player.Liability in defence and to many errors a game.Just a backup player at best.with sua taking his spot this is what our 27 side will prob look like before future signings and what we know now.

1.Isiah iongi

2.Bailey simonsson

3.Will penisni

4.?

5.Josh addocarr

6.Lorenzo maybe if ready

7.Mitchell moses

8.Go to market 

9.Ryley smith

10.Junior?(go to market)

11.Kitione kautoga

12.Jayden sua

13.Jmaine hopgood

14.Tayln da Silva 

15.Dylan walker

16.Sam tuivati 

17.Charlie guymer

18.Joash papalii 

19.Jordan samrani 

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                    • It's a good strategy to adopt, are there any limitations on front loading deals?

              • No but in principle Cappy is right, as you are in saying what you have said.

                The ambiguity of the process is Cappy's point and that is valid.....saying that gets us nowhere just the same. Cheika  is a true businessman, who understands the constraints but also be commercial savy, would know how to handle a board and the way they think.

                His football qualifications are enhanced and I think with Ryles and his retrospective Rugby backgrounds they could work well together.

                He was of course an original applicant for the coaching job but he is bigger than that worrying him and he would be a much greater force than MON.....I would even keep him on for the lessor duties described if there are any loyalty factors......i.e do the job he does without that title and the responsibilities as listed.

                Cheika is a genuine General Manager, not a puppet one!

  • Kautoga needs to be out of the Fkn team his a fkn plodder ! 

    • Jury's out on Kautoga . He's raw but looks disinterested sometimes.  Much like Sivo.

      • He's 23 with 24 First Grade games under his belt. He is also signed through to the end of 2027.

        I think he should have until the end of this season to show what he's capable of on a consistent basis. Before his injury last year, he was quite a handful on the left edge (albeit, outside D Brown at the time).

         

        • Agreed, Kautonga's still very young and inexperienced. We have seen glimpses of what he is capable of, but clearly needs much more development. Ideally he'd spend some stints in Cup honing certain skills, but we don't have anybody to take his place.

        • Most of his first grade games came last year when really he shouldn't have been playing first grade yet, well not as much as he did at least.

          He is very raw and should have been slowly introduced to first grade over last season and this but the club is in such a poor position he was fast tracked. 

          I'm not giving up on him yet, whilst I don't think he is ever going to be a star i think he could develop into a consistent first grader that occasionally has a big game.

          • He has also played this full year outside of Pezet which is horrible.

  • If we're signing SuA then of course he's going. Even if we're not I think I'd rather throw Latu or play Williams than him. 

    He's not bad, Kelma, but he really still has too many brain farts for someone of his experience. 

  • Where do we need to recruit? List of player and where we have cover and where we dont. Brackets are the cover player

    1. Iongi (Twiddle)

    2. need to sign (Bailey simmonson)

    3 Will Penisini (needs someone putting pressure on him)

    4. Samrani (needs pressure, not sure how long Kelly is signed for)

    5 JAC (Twiddle)

    6. Lorenzo has to be ready( Papali/ Junior)

    7. Moses ( Journeyman or Volk)

    8. Tuivati ( need to sign 2 props)

    9. Ryley (tds)

    10 Junior ( like tui we need 2 x genuine props as cover

    11 Sua (hopefully Latu Williams Guymer Funa Luta Kit Kat can cover 2 back rower and bench rotations)

    12 Kit Kat (as above)

    13 Hopgood ( Walker, Guymer, could use Paulo, Doorey)

    14 TDS (Ryley)

    15 Walker 

    16 Need 2 x props plus teacum brown

    17 one of the back rowers

     

    as it stands I think we desperately need 2 props and a quality winger (Bailey just too one dimensional)

     

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