Joash our future 5/8

Jason Ryles in his after match press conference said that Joash is our 1st choice 5/8 going into the future. He also said that he wants to play him there as much as possible from now on to let him develop and build his game.

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    • That's the impression that I got too.

       

  • Actually Ryles said wih a shrug and a shake of the head "He'll get the first oppurtunity and then we will see what it looks like moving forward.".

    Something very telling was Ryles body language whilst saying it. 

    'To me Ryles has basically said Joash has an opportunity right now, this year with the remaining rounds. We will know in the next couple of weeks if Joash is up to it and Dylan will be secondary in considerations. Ryles quote "Our future is now" .

    Ryles obviously wants to see the kid in the position now, this way we have 6 months to find another recruit to play 5/8. Someone say Doueihi. 

    'To me Ryles was diplomatic in an attempt to encourage Joash and support his players, but to me Ryles dosnt think Joash is our 5/8 answer full stop. Ryles has been left holding the bag so to speak, in recent weeks we have targeted Sandon Smith and Galvin, that shows Joash is a fall back position because we can't sign an established 5/8 or one with more potential then Joash.

    Joash played Dummy half as a youngster and got decent experience / exposure at fullback, centre and wing. The kid shouts versatility, I see his real position as cover for a backline, not first choice First grade NRL 5/8.

    The next couple of weeks will be very telling. Good luck Joash.

    • Good point.

       

  • With Moses return this weekend JR should keep Joash at 5/8 until the end of the sesaon, run both hookers De Silva & Smith. As for Dyland Brown why not play him a centre? 

    Parra's backline would be

    FB Iongi

    Wings Fox & Lomax

    Centres Simomsson & D Brown

    • That's a good backline.

       

  • I don't see Joash as a 6.

    If I'm building a team from scratch a 5/8 has to have some semblance of a first grade kicking game.

    Weve got young inexperienced hookers and a fullback I fail to see how you'd entertain the idea of an inexperienced 5/8 .

    Thats a lot of pressure on Moses who struggles to string games together or Hawkins his replacement.

    If we've identified a player in our system who we've earmarked for 5/8 surely we go to market for a stop gap experienced footballer that has a kicking game, is a strong defender and can play a number of positions until the kid develops.

    Sounds like Doueihi.

    If we haven't got a player in our system , a ready to go 5/8 we have to enter the playing market.

    Im not sure what Ryles has in mind, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but playing Joash in the halves with little experience combined with our slow starts to halves particularly the start of games is a major concern.

    • What you say makes sense but unless Ryles is playing games at pressers or something changes we are not buying an older player.  Ryles said we are going young. The club and him have decided that's the way to go.

      • I've got no problem opting for youth, but you have to select players who are at least experienced in their position if your putting them into a first grade spine.

        We don't exactly have a forward pack that eats metres that could give the kid room enough to develop.

        Blooding kids in the halves without strong forward packs inevitably goes arse up let alone one playing out of position.

        • Spot on, Bup.

          If Joash had been a 5/8th through the grades, maybe, but he hasn't. Yesterday we had two spine players playing new positions, a fullback & backup half with a handfull of first grade games between them, and a hooker playing his game in the system.

          Combined with a side where we are carrying multiple players who probably are back up first graders at best, its an all-in play on Joash developing into that position.

          I do get the 'the future is now' play, and respect Ryles isn't afraid to pull the trigger, but, there is a balance here between developing for next year, and losing a lot of what you have built this year.

           

           

      • Are we opting for youth Badger or that's just what's left in the market after missing certain targeted players.

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