There wasn't just one. Mitchell Moses recalls at least a dozen blow-ups with the coach throughout the course of last year.
"It was week in, week out," a forthright Moses told NRL.com.
"I'd disagree on things, he'd disagree on things, and we'd let each other know about it."
It culminated in Moses virtually being shown the door. Time to move on.
That part of the story is well known.
But how did Moses convince Brad Arthur that he was worth taking one last punt on?
"I was always blaming everyone else," a forthright Moses said.
"That was my fault. For a long time I've been listening to all the outside noise saying 'it's not me, I'm not the problem, it's everyone else'. It took for me to wipe those people, who were filling my head with s***, out of my life to realise it is my fault. I am the problem.
"So I went up to Brad at the end of the season and said 'I'm sorry, I was selfish'. I had to look at myself in the mirror.
"I'm glad me and Brad could clear that up and now our relationship is the best it's ever been. This whole year is because of him. He's put the boys in a position to play the footy we’re playing. It’s because of him."
Moses is a changed man, both on and off the field.
In the space of 12 months, he's gone from an unwanted wooden spooner to the driving force behind the Eels’ premiership push.
The club couldn't have been more impressed with the way he handled his contract negotiations this year. It was done without fuss or fanfare, in stark contrast to the way he handled things at the Wests Tigers the last time he came off-contract.
"I had a few people in my life who used to tell me 'it's always their fault, their fault, their fault', no matter the problem," Moses said.
"They'd tell me it was never my fault, and I believed them.
"Since then, I’ve got those people out of my life and I just feel so much clearer in myself. I was always relying on these people, that they would always save me. I took it upon myself not to have those people in my life and I just feel so much better.
"I feel like I have taken a lot of ownership on myself. I've looked at my game - really looked at my game - and realised 'you know what, it's not anyone else's fault - it’s me'.
"I had to look it in that way, not relying on someone else in my life. My relationships with probably everyone else is so much better now. I had to learn the hard way, but I’m so glad it happened.”
Moses has been maligned throughout his career, often criticised for an inability to play to his potential on a consistent basis.
He performed well when arrived at the Eels mid-way through 2017, helping the club reach its first finals series in eight years.
However, things went pear-shaped last year in a team with many strong voices, including the likes of Corey Norman and Jarryd Hayne.
"It's not as if Normy was the problem, he's gone on to play Origin this year," Moses said.
"It wasn't like Haynesy was the problem, either. Everyone had a hand in last year being such a terrible year. Everyone was rubbish.
"Everyone wanted to come back and prove a point. Not having those two players made everyone else stand up and take control a bit more. Everyone grew a leg."
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Taking ownership and responsibility for himself and the team.
This is what winning teams are built on
Wow this is brutally honest stuff...good on him and good on Brad helping him to see he can’t be a big boy or leader being a blamer!
It takes a big person to take ownership like this. Shows Moses is taking his growth and maturity seriously. Awesome to see! I'd love to see him stay at the Eels long term, his combo with Brown looks great and will only get better with time.
Wow, that's some pretty powerful stuff. In life, only when you start owning it, will you become a man. Well done Mitch and well done Brad.
That's great stuff, and shows leadership. Moses will learn a lot from this year, regardless of where we end up. He has seen that consistent application and self appraisal brings success. I can see big things from him over the coming years.
And this is why Norman’s a dope. 2 players allowed to go and 1 puts his hand up and doesn’t go on his OS holiday and the other 1 is still thinking he’s ripping
That's some brutal honesty to give in an interview. Anyone know who "those people" were who were filling his head with s***???
I will have a guess and say it is the so called football whisperer that has got in the heads of quite a few NRL players
A certain high profile uncle perhaps ???
Or a certain high profile house mate, Brooks?
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