Charles Guymer

Hard to single out 1 guy in a pretty inept performance but Charles is the face of inept . 40 metres in 80 minutes . The most unathletic , uninspiring back rower in the competition . By god he is a bad player . Im yet to see one thing he does at an NRL level . Can't run a line , can't break a tackle , can't hit in defence , loses almost every contact he's involved in. Congrats MON and all involved on the retention . 
Every team in the comp has powerful , mobile athletic back rowers who can move . We have a bloke that moves around like he's carrying a backpack with 150kg in it . Having edges like him paired with completely useless centres like Penisni and Russell is destroying the prime of Mitch Moses career . 

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    • Pryke and Moretti?

      Both are young, having a crack and need time to get used to the top grade. Who at the Eels takes their place?

      Volkman would probably be better suited in the Super League, guymer and De Belin aren't first grade material

      • Moretti is gassed after 10 minutes, he is a lot heavier then he used to be and it is costing him

        Respectfully, Pryke isn't first grade material, I'd be giving another junior a crack (Teancum Brown)

    • Pryke and Volkman are depth players. They wouldn't be in the NRL team if we didn't have so many injuries. Gymer is still young, and I can potentially see him being the forward who plays big minutes and does the simple things. Every team needs those players. Still a long way to go however.

  • Agreed Snottie

    The team is lacking in so many areas and we cant just hang our hats on injuries. ....Melbourne were poor very poor but did what they always do to us play through the middle.   Talent is one thing but hard work will always beat it...Not sure if these youngsters are up for that.  

    We do the fundamentals and make our tackles we win tonight simple as that referring aside.  Not sure were we go from here into a bye on a very low ebb.....

    we do get some players back Rd 13 but cant see that helping much.

    Ive stopped myself commenting on the recruitment staff....if I do I will be banned by the one eyed eel thought police(there have been a few Orwellian quotes...Ill add mine)

    gutted at the mo

  • The most concerning part is we must not have anyone coming through that's any better. Either that or JR is blind. The guy has not had one good game and hits the line likes he's afraid to be tackled. Spins his body around and pretty much stops in the tackle 

  • In some positions we have Cup quality players . Fullback ( can't believe some have pushed for Joash to replace Iongi) , 5/8 ( Volkman is the worst defensive half in the comp by a distance ). These can't be helped at the minute but holy shit does there need to be an adjustment in what we're recruiting on the edges above all else . It is pure garbage. 
    Russell's early try ( which was more a result of inept defence by Meaney ) masked how terrible a player he is . He has no footwork or vision . Mitch put 2 pinpoint kicks on the line for him to score off he got good grabs on them both and can't do his job . He had Fox unmarked in the corner and held it .. a very below average player . Russell , Penisni , Kelma and Guymer is atrocious edges . You really have to be asking recruitment and retention Questions about that alone . The Sua signing is great. It's one of about 5 needed desperately. 

  • He'd be bog average as a Cup player... only at Parra is he a starting 1st grader. Not sure what exactly he showed for an extension?

  • I just hope I'm wrong in that the club seems to be desperate to have some fruits of their junior development labour . Charlie was a NSW u19s player .. captain I think ? They need to be honest with themselves and say whether it's his ceiling not being NRLOr the subtle rule changes or a combination of both .. he might be a hard trainer , lovely kid and proof of our pathways development  but he is not the prototypical forward in the modern game . There may be smarter people than me but he is not what the other clubs ( especially the good ones ) are putting out there . Something has gone wrong in talent identification by the looks . The exact same applies with Will Penisini. The closest comparison to him is probably Matt Timoko but even then he doesn't have that explosive acceleration . Timoko is being shopped while we double down on inept . Very concerning. All our recruitment needs to be competitive athletic football players going forward. We are coached well but getting blown away by how rubbish our stocks are . 

  • I smirked a little at the backpack comment.

    Like Chief eluded to, he needs to find some intensity to his game again. 
    Ryles has him on that edge in the belief he can protect or assist Volkman in defence, the problem being that he misses 4 to 5 tackles a game. 
    He tries hard but so does my ex wife to make my life difficult. 

  • harsh  but true  ,  SOS  .. Daniel alvaro  ffs !

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