Low doses of cocaine will be detectable for up to 24 hours (higher doses for up to 48-72 hrs), so it's probably worthwhile separating out two things with regard to driving. Was JAC within the effects zone of the drug while driving? Let's call that "reckless" (and illegal). Was JAC driving while beyond the effect zone of the drug but while the drug was still detectable? Let's call that "stupid" (and illegal).
Unless it turns out a case of c) reckless driving - lab results to determine dosage and police report of degree of impairment - we only have a) second drug offense (doubly stupid), and b) stupid and illegal drug and driving behaviour.
Using PubMed, I skimmed two studies of cases of drug use and crashes. In lab work the median dose for impairment in crashes was 0.10mg/L, so we can expect that lab results will show if JAC's result suggests impaired driving. Below 0.07mg/L apparently means not impaired. Unlike alcohol, where there are prescribed limits - up to 0.05% blood alcohol concentration for fully licensed drivers - for drugs like cocaine it is zero tolerance. But that will mean cases where the driver is non-impaired but trace amounts still detectable = illegal (and I have no reason to disagree with that zero tolerance).
None of this is meant to dispute either a) the stupidity of a second drug offense, or b) the stupidity of not using Uber. But we should not equate it to, say, the Ezra Mam case - thereby adding c) reckless driving - until lab results show degree of impairment?
Only problem though is that the law is not written around impairment - it's based on the detection of the drug in a driver's system (usually through detecting its metabolites). So from that perspective, my understanding is that it's still a DUI and it's still a second offence. We can't get away from that.
I agree that the Mam example is not equivalent. Luckily there was no accident or injury caused.
Correct , drug driving is drug driving. No low or high reading exists in the context here . He may as well have just done a big rail on the dashboard. Everyone knows this , it's not even a discussion that has relevance to his predicament when it comes to the NRL / clubs rulings .
Poppa > Wizard “Alcatraz “SleeveSeptember 13, 2026 at 9:05pm
He passed the alchol test and failed the drug test, is that a normal procedure, i.e. was he stopped randomly or for an offence? If he has reckless driving in there, he's fcuked.....
He has form, his car would be flagged as a potential drug driver. Same as anyone with a history of driving pissed or unlicensed car does. I'd say it was targeted due to that. Or it was a random roadside which is unlikely as it was in Newtown ? Can't say I've ever seen a random booze bus set up on the side of the road in Newtown. Most likely scenario due to location is coppers were cruising and got a hit on his plates as a potential DUI and thought let's go pull old mate JAC over and test him for shits and giggles and struck gold.
Eli Stephens > Prof. DazSeptember 13, 2026 at 2:10pm
Yeah his only hope really is the 2nd test comes back clean, which would be a miracle lol.
"He has form, his car would be flagged as a potential drug driver. Same as anyone with a history of driving pissed or unlicensed car does. I'd say it was targeted due to that. Or it was a random roadside which is unlikely as it was in Newtown ?…"
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The initial roadside test (Securetec DrugWipe) is a screening tool. If it returns a positive result, NSW Police take a secondary…"
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We will end up with Blake Wilson now that the Eagles have let him go.
LOL - MON is our version of the Canadian Mounties. He always gets his man...
Low doses of cocaine will be detectable for up to 24 hours (higher doses for up to 48-72 hrs), so it's probably worthwhile separating out two things with regard to driving. Was JAC within the effects zone of the drug while driving? Let's call that "reckless" (and illegal). Was JAC driving while beyond the effect zone of the drug but while the drug was still detectable? Let's call that "stupid" (and illegal).
Unless it turns out a case of c) reckless driving - lab results to determine dosage and police report of degree of impairment - we only have a) second drug offense (doubly stupid), and b) stupid and illegal drug and driving behaviour.
Using PubMed, I skimmed two studies of cases of drug use and crashes. In lab work the median dose for impairment in crashes was 0.10mg/L, so we can expect that lab results will show if JAC's result suggests impaired driving. Below 0.07mg/L apparently means not impaired. Unlike alcohol, where there are prescribed limits - up to 0.05% blood alcohol concentration for fully licensed drivers - for drugs like cocaine it is zero tolerance. But that will mean cases where the driver is non-impaired but trace amounts still detectable = illegal (and I have no reason to disagree with that zero tolerance).
None of this is meant to dispute either a) the stupidity of a second drug offense, or b) the stupidity of not using Uber. But we should not equate it to, say, the Ezra Mam case - thereby adding c) reckless driving - until lab results show degree of impairment?
Only problem though is that the law is not written around impairment - it's based on the detection of the drug in a driver's system (usually through detecting its metabolites). So from that perspective, my understanding is that it's still a DUI and it's still a second offence. We can't get away from that.
I agree that the Mam example is not equivalent. Luckily there was no accident or injury caused.
Correct , drug driving is drug driving. No low or high reading exists in the context here . He may as well have just done a big rail on the dashboard. Everyone knows this , it's not even a discussion that has relevance to his predicament when it comes to the NRL / clubs rulings .
He passed the alchol test and failed the drug test, is that a normal procedure, i.e. was he stopped randomly or for an offence? If he has reckless driving in there, he's fcuked.....
He has form, his car would be flagged as a potential drug driver. Same as anyone with a history of driving pissed or unlicensed car does. I'd say it was targeted due to that. Or it was a random roadside which is unlikely as it was in Newtown ? Can't say I've ever seen a random booze bus set up on the side of the road in Newtown. Most likely scenario due to location is coppers were cruising and got a hit on his plates as a potential DUI and thought let's go pull old mate JAC over and test him for shits and giggles and struck gold.
Yeah his only hope really is the 2nd test comes back clean, which would be a miracle lol.
Lab results could take up to 10-12 weeks.
Bulldogs got a quick result, i think it was under a week. I think they had to pay for it.
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