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Okay guys we are 5 rounds in and let's look at how our forwards are competing against each other, I will separate middle forwards and Edge forwards and divide in to offense and defence.

MIDDLE FORWARDS - RUNS (meters per carry)

1st place - Tim Mannah 10.39 mpc

2nd place - Suaia Matagi 9.23 mpc

3rd place - Peni Terepo 9.1 mpc

4th place - Tepai Moeroa 8.58 mpc

5th place - Kane Evans 8.3 mpc

6th place - Nathan Brown 8.17 mpc

7th place - Daniel Alvaro 7.08 mpc

MIDDLE FORWARDS - TACKLES (tackles per minute on field)

1st place - Daniel Alvaro - 0.76 tpm 

2nd place - Suaia Matagi - 0.66 tpm 

3rd place - Kane Evans - 0.62 tpm

4th place - Tim Mannah - 0.55 tpm

5th place - Peni Terepo - 0.54 tpm

6th place - Tepai Moeroa - 0.52 tpm

7th place - Nathan Brown - 0.46 tpm 

EDGE FORWARDS - RUNS (meters per carry)

1st place - Tony Williams - 10 mpc

2nd place - Beau Scott - 9 mpc

3rd place - Kenny Edwards - 8.7 mpc

4th place - Brad Takairangi - 8.46 mpc

5th place - Manu Mau - 8.24 mpc

EDGE FORWARDS - TACKLES (tackles per minute on field)

1st place - Beau Scott - 0.56 tpm

2nd place - Ken Edwards - 0.39 tpm

3rd place - Manu Mau - 0.32 tpm

4th place - Brad Takairangi - 0.31 tpm

5th place - Tony Williams - 0.22 tpm 

HOOKERS - RUNS & TACKLES

1st place Kaysa Pritchard - 8 mpc

2nd place Cameron King - 6.2 mpc

1st place Cameron King - 0.54 tpm

2nd place Kaysa Pritchard - 0.50 tpm 

Stats don't paint the whole picture but you can see who works the hardest in defence and who is a more effective carrier. you could make a case for both Nathan Brown and Daniel Alvaro to take less runs and that guys like Beau Scott and Kenny Edwards are still effective if they can clean up their discipline.

Nathan Brown is the only one worth mentioning with offloads, he averages 2 per game. Also time on the field is factor, but you can only judge a player on the opportunities they are given.

I truly believe most our problems stem from losing the middle third battle, we have our issues on the edges to but the middle magnifies them.

The most immediate fix is to move Nathan Brown into 9, bring Beau Scott into 13 and start with Terepo and Matagi to try and win the defensive ruck, I would also drop Manu one of my favorites to wenty and start Moeroa for more added defensive stability.  

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Fark.......Mannah is better than the lot of them.

Your stats MUST be wrong.

Mannah is the best at what he does, and must be commended for that, it's just what he does isn't that effective.

Parody, can you include average minutes played.

Less game time means less caries so fresher and can run harder therefore more metres per carry.

Same with tackles, if on the field for less minutes then again fresher so can do more tackles per minute.

Can you add in Metres per minute.

I also wonder what thought would be of cross referencing metres and tackles to maybe do Metres per tackle. Do you think Metres per tackle would give an all round look at there work rate in attack and defense?

Based on those stats we have a SOO pack??

The third stat is missing, minutes per game the longer a forward plays the more their stats diminish.

etc - Tim Mannah 35 mpg vs Sam Burgess 72.8 mpg.

Mahoney getting big wraps in the write ups. Very skilful apparently!

Reed unfortunately needs to wait until he's about 32 and past it Daz... and then we might buy him back from another club for 4 years at $1m pa.

While BA won't blood our youth whats everyone's thoughts on Will Smith at hooker with Gutho coming back in - kid has heart and always aims up, yeah i know he makes the odd mistake but geez i reckon he fills the utility well and hooker needs speed .... just concerned about his defence.

Great step too 

His defence in the middle isn't good enough.  King struggles and he is a much better defender than Smith.

Al I tend to agree but as defence is moving up quicker by oiffside our halves are getting hammered, at least smith may add spark and another alternative, KP is enthusiastic and punchers above his weight but sheesh hes slow. Smith can dart up the middle and slide in between defenders on the try line  ... its worth a shot as the kid puts his heart and soul into his every game. I just wish the rest of the team had his passion some excluded in that last piece

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