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  Cʜɪᴇғy Mclovin November 25, 2021 at 8:27am

  

  It's a housing crisis caused by corrupt governments. Australia with one of the greatest land masses and 20 million people lol, then we have unaffordable housing. It's all government corruption 
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    Adam Magrath > Cʜɪᴇғy Mclovin November 25, 2021 at 8:38am

    That was one point which was raised that despite being one of the largest countries in the world a huge percentage of our population is packed into two cities. There needs to be more infrastructure (high speed rail networks was mentioned) servicing our rural areas.

    Luke Bona (host of the nightshift radio on MMM) was saying that his daughter is wanting to buy somewhere on the northern beaches of Sydney but a 2 bedroom unit was over a million dollars. He was saying to his daughter that she might have to consider looking at other areas further out but she was having none of it. So is part of the problem that the current generation want the best of everything immediately? 
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      Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve > Adam Magrath November 25, 2021 at 10:19am

      Yup, this is their problem. Whilst they're sooking about prices they're unwillling to negotiate on the location.  Our first home was in an area deemed a bit undesirable . We realised I wasn't going to be able to buy where I grew up, so we decided to hunt in an area more sure to our budget. We picked the less desirable area we thought would have the most growth possibilities and settled on a place that was in probably the least desirable area of them all but the difference is this place was only 200m from the water . Turns our that area grew big time. more than tripled  our money in 9 years . 
      
      

      wasn't easy by any means , we had some years we lived week to week , but back then even a 300k mortgage seemed like a million dollar one. Once we'd moved out of where I grew up and our eyes were more open to living in other reas we were able to start buying smart. 
      
      

      I have zero sympathy for these people who bitch and moan about the house prices but aren't willing to negotiate on where they want to buy.
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        SuperEel 22 > Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve December 13, 2021 at 8:11pm

        Wiz, I bought my first property in Penrith. It's where I'm living at the moment. It's a town house, 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath. Cost $500,000 when I got it five years ago. My wife and I are looking to move. Not to the beaches, not to the city, not to the inner west. We've been looking at Schofields due to work and family. We're looking at a minimum of a million dollars for a four bedroom.

        Now I agree, there are morons complaining about housing prices because they can't live on the beach at 23. But the prices in western Sydney aren't exactly cheap either. There are dumps going in Mt Druitt and St Marys for more than a million dollars.
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          Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve > SuperEel 22 December 14, 2021 at 1:08am

          

          Yes I see it Super, it's crazy prices here right now too. However , you're in the market , you should have zero issues buying your second home. There are still houses around for the 6 and 700 hundreds , both up there and down here . As I said , just not in the locations these upstarts dream to live in. They also don't wish to roll their sleeves up and want everything Instagram ready.  I have zero sympathy for these 1st home buyers. Most have been living at home for longer than they used to so if they had have been smarter they'd have no problems. 

          Im sure I will encounter the same with my children as we bought this place with the vision we'd be stuck with them so we bought lots of internal sqm and lots of shitters. However , the condition will be theyre saving for a house from the day they start work. Or we may turn this place into two villas and a granny flat and wifey and I will move to the bottom level and they can buy one each off us. Dunno.  What I do know is I won't be encouraging my kids to spend 6 years at uni getting behind the game . 

          And then well , I'm sure as a proud leftie you can appreciate the immigration and over population of the east coast factor and be thankfull our new pals are getting the same fortunes and opportunities as you and I , Super and unfortunately ( fortunately for some ) driving the market prices up. If that means you are forced to stay where you are it's a small price to pay I'm sure 😜😜
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            Hellmut > Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve January 28, 2024 at 8:26am

            

            in 1970, an average house cost only 4.5 times median annual income. Today that number is over 12 and still going up. If something is not done home ownership will be out of reach of average Australians, and only for the born rich and investment companies.

            People with a Uni degree earn 53% more than others on average.

            Dont listen to these shock jocks being paid to lie to you. Get your kids educated, it's the best path to wealth. 

             
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              Adam Magrath > Hellmut January 28, 2024 at 11:54am

              Becoming wealthy (for the most part) is behavioural, not knowledge. I don't disagree with what you're saying about becoming educated but there's a distinction to be made between being smart and being good with money. There's plenty of intellectual people around who are deadset terrible with money. The psychology of money is an interesting topic.
              • Tad > Adam Magrath January 28, 2024 at 12:09pm

                Money gives you life time security and gives you more options to become the individual you want to be without restraints..It is simply a tool towards self actualisation. .It is where your head is at to be of any real value.
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                  Adam Magrath > Tad January 28, 2024 at 1:34pm

                  I agree, no point in having heaps of money and being miserable. Like everything in life there needs to be balance. Just remember for there to be rich there has to be poor. For there to be a hero there has to be a villain. For there to be happy there has to be sad. One doesn't exist without the other and oftentimes we have a choice of which one we want to be. Much of my efforts are for my children so they won't have to struggle their way through life.
                  • Tad > Adam Magrath January 28, 2024 at 1:48pm

                    Adam I have a good friend who has a successful business. Still working in his mid 70,s.and stuck with knowing what to do to get out of it. Has mentioned to me that he doesn,t know if he owns threbusiness or the business owns him..

                    I agree with you .Lots of personal  love gratification in leaving something behind for your kids.