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"Well made points HOE"
"Both the Coalition and the ALP are addicted to immigration because it's the only way to make our GDP go up without facing into the actual/real/hard problems.
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Immigration is terrific and has been an engine of growth for our country for decades. But it must work for us. If we don't have enough homes, importing more people will add to that demand. Importing people who go immediately onto welfare is also another head scratcher. If you come here legally with a job lined up in a skilled area and immediately start earning a wage isn't that what it's meant to be? Isn't that the bare minimum? Economists are obsessed with GDP growth but the only metric that truly matters is GDP per capita. How prosperous is each person and is that getting better or worse. What's the point of growing the economic pie by adding more people if it means we're all getting poorer individually.
Surely we're mature enough as a country to have these discussions without being racist or calling people racist for discussing it.
Immigration is great when immigrants are not from 3rd world counries.
100% that GDP per capita is a much better measure - but we won't do that because it'll show our productivity in Australia absolutely sucks.
The actual problem we have in Australia is a productivity and innovation problem. We have never HAD to innovate so we don't, we just rely on being "the lucky country".
Problem is the luck will run out. Minerals are finite. The housing bubble can only inflate so much before it divides the classes beyond ever being able to repair them again.
Other than minerals, we offer nothing to the world.
When we do innovate the only ways for those companies to survive is to leave Australia - Atlassian, Canva etc. They're trying hard to keep Australia relevant but both has to go to the US to make an impact.
If Australia wants to rely on anything other than luck, we need to lift our innovation and productivity. Which means working both smarter AND harder. If we're not willing to do this then the current Ponzi schemes of housing and immigration are the only way to keep us globally competitive and it will continue to create massive wealth gaps (poorer poor and richer rich) and our standard of living will continue to drop.
Mass immigration? Immigration levels are only returning to what they were under the coalition government prior to COVID.
I suggest you look at the Abs data rather the endless lies that this communist pm spews forth. The last two years have had immigration numbers that were the second highest on record.
You know they also mean temporary visas.
Good point Pou someone has so the job locals refuse to do, what is the issue? Im perplexed - imagine an economy without immigration, it would be a shit show.
EE, there’s an easy fix if this protest fails to overthrow the Gov’t or stop mass student visas, the biggest chunk of the immigration pie nowadays. N Korea, China, Cuba, Sri Lanka & Madagascar have low immigration levels. It might take a while to get it, but don't give up. The ABS also tells us mental health issues affect around 40% of the population.
Well made points HOE
Both the Coalition and the ALP are addicted to immigration because it's the only way to make our GDP go up without facing into the actual/real/hard problems.
Sure the Coalition will talk up "strong borders" and will stop some random illegal immigrants (which seriously are not a problem for Australia... we're a bloody island) but they'll continue to import cheap labour because their supporters need it
Likewise the ALP will crow about Australian jobs and unemployment and boosting protection for workers. But they'll also keep immigration sky high because they won't want to face into the crippling productivity problem in Australia with our home grown workforce, it's a big union no-no to talk about that.
They're both equally culpable.
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