Spida Everett & KAK's comments re women

Alright, season over, so I thought I'd garnishee the opinions of members as to the recent Twitter comments made by Spida Everett and Kerry Anne Kennelly's response.For those that missed it, Spida basically 'tweeted' that girls had to wise up and that going home with a footballer at 3am when blind drunk would lead to only one thing! The KAKster added that such women were 'strays' and that responsibility cuts both ways.http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/kerrianne-kennerleys-strays-barb-20101006-166vf.html?autostart=1Must say, I've often felt disappointed when hearing of the antics football players get up to - particularly with how they do treat women. But I must say, there's an element of reality and truth to their remarks.I remember my ex-girlfriend and I were at the Buena Vista Hotel in Mosman one day and Dean Pay, Jim Dymock and David Kidwell were in the next room playing pool. Despite her complete disregard for football (and sport in general) she desperately wanted to go an play pool with them and it was only the gentle chiding from my mates and I that restrained her.Now, the three players in question did nothing that day but I didn't want to take the risk because I was concerned at how the players may have reacted to her approaching them. This is the disappointing part because footballers, like any man, ought to show woman appropriate respect.Nonetheless, via constant media reporting and public awareness, every female would know the consequences of drunkenly hitting on a footballer at 3am and unless their comfortable about it like that Charmyne Palavi girl that the DT are always crapping on about, then KAK's right - they do share a degree of responsibility.Thoughts??

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  • Whether or not this comment will cause some members to go ape-shit at me, and disagree, we shall soon find out, but I actually have to agree with Spida's comments.
    I think the fact that there are women out there that deliberately try to start something negative towards football players is not on.
  • Again lets let all the facts come out before resorting to any humerous phrases or anecdotes like that complete twit Kerrie Ann Kennelly.

    What Everett and Kennelly want to do is paint this current situation with a sort of common brush and make out that all women who associate with footballers are inherantly irresponsible or themselves the 'predators' ala Palavi.

    Why are footballers any different from anyone else?

    A young girl should not feel that she has given up her right to say no because of the fact that she is associating with footballers as opposed to any other young group of males and to suggest otherwise is really quite scary.
  • It's kinda like the Brett Seymour incident, he was walking home drunk, and how many men do that. Then these two women realised who he was and started follow and record him. He wasn't doing anything wrong, he would have been in the wrong if he was driving home
  • Very very true... You dont want danger, dont look for it.

    Wether you are a footballer or not, hitting on a guy, getting drunk etc, goin home with him, spells adult fun, not a game of scrabble...

    Now, i have 2 daughters, don't think for one minute im saying that if a girls says no, it means no.... Im just saying, dont put yourself out there in a poor situation that you have lead on.
  • 2ndly, its like these navy guys that come into town....

    Girls, flock, get drunk with them, lead them on, then whinge when they get hurt etc. They know they are here for fun only, they go all over differant ports and do the same. Why whinge... Sympathy 0

    Again, i state, no means no.... its the situation you lead on.
  • Why can't players just be interested in nice girls. Remember, you can't make a hoe a housewife! lol
  • No. No. No.

    Regardless of alcohol, regardless of the time of night, regardless of where your at, there is a line that is never excusable to cross.

    Young women have exactly the same rights as young men, to go out drinking, flirt, make-out or whatever and it shouldn't be assumed at any point that any of the aforementioned activities automatically means that sex is going to ensue.

    How often do you hear about rock stars and other celebrity figures getting rape accusations made against them and this type of adoration is probably more prevalent with them than it is footballers. Being a footballer is not a license to be a dickhead.
  • I'm not actually referring to the investigation of the two Collingwood players, rather commenting generally. Nobody's suggesting that anybody give up their right to say no. Rather, with all the various media reports and cautionary tales around these days surely young women are awake to the potential for, as Bert Kenny puts, "adult fun" when hitting on a group of footy players at 3am while intoxicated.

    We've all done things we're ashamed of and sometimes there are fairly unpleasant consequences. It just seems that whenever an incident involving a girl and a footballer takes place, the various interest groups all scream the house down about how the "awareness campaigns aren't working" and "the players need more education" yet we never hear a peep about the silly girl who got blind drunk and threw herself at a bunch of hormone charged blokes who are accustomed to being idolised!

    That is my interpretation of the comments by Spida and KAK and to an extent I agree.
  • Do you people have daughters?

    think about it as if it was your daughter...
  • The girl may be silly BM, in fact she may be a raving nutter but is doesn't change my opinion one iota.

    There is, if we are going to be honest, a fair power imbalance between a young fit male and a young female, if a girl doesn't consent to anything physical - at any stage - then it doesn't matter what she did up to that point.

    I, like most other males,have been out and, for want of a better phrase, been 'cock teased' yet I have been able to restrain myself from doing anything I would regret.

    I know you probably agree with all this and I would suggest that Kennelly probably does too, but even giving some credence to the suggestion that the girl was 'asking for it' is dangerous.
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