Scrap the cap

I think the time has come to scrap the cap and come up with a better more transparent system. I mean the current system is actually driving money away from the game. If i owned an extremely wealthy business like Dyldam for example and I am a crazy Parra fan. I would invest doubly my money to ensure my team does well and my brand is extremely visible. At the moment what's the point in investing more money when you can't influence the performance of your team because every team supposedly spends the same amount on their playing roster. This is why it needs to be open slather and no cap. Now I've heard the argument about tHe weak clubs dying. Well they need to implement a system like the soccer. It's funny how some of the so called struggling clubs have strong juniors . Make the rich clubs pay for your juniors. For example say the Roosters come knocking for Bevan French. Parra would then say to the roosters we have him on contract, it will cost you 1 million to have him released to you. This is how clubs like the Tigers, St George etc can rebuild . This would encourage clubs to have a strong junior system

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  • I agree. The argument that the weaker teams will die doesn't seem to take into consideration right now the NRL is propping up how many teams 3 or 4. A Salary cap doesn't save clubs from poor management look at us as exhibit A
    • Leeds United is a good example of this in the premier league. Mismanagement set them back. They are now rebuilding
  • I think that just increase the cap and scrap TPA's. If it's true that the roosters have 1.5 mil in TPA then increase the cap by that much. I am not sure that scrapping TPA would have the dire consequences some people think it would if the cap was increased
    • You can't stop TPAs, this the whole problem. If a company wants to pay Jarryd Hayne 10million to promote their brand let it happen. It's actually good for the game
  • Just scrap the TPA system, it's a dodgy paper bag system. Allow players with a profile to do endorsements in their club gear if need be, they should earn what ever their profile affords them, selling shoes, cars, what ever.
  • I guess this cap drama has ushered in the silly season, where every half baked and ill thought out idea gets a run. You know, sometimes elections give wacky results, like Abbott or Trump, so let's dump democracy. And Capitalism does not guarantee equality, so let's be Communists.

    If you want fairness and a reasonably level playing field, a cap is your best bet. Shoot for perfection and you fire blanks from the beginning. This is the problem with social media, with little incentive to think through an idea.
    • Prof Daz, instead of mocking people and their ideas, why not make a sensible case and discussion as to why you think the cap is still the best way forward. Your comments only demonstrate your own incapacity to think. The cap is broken and is now proven to be broken. If the NRL reports are true, Parra have been "cheating" for a number of years. Why has it taken years to catch them? They have a salary cap auditor whose job it is to maintain the integrity of the cap, yet it's been proven time and time again that the cap has no integrity. Soccer is the biggest game in the world and despite all the corruption at FIFA level, soccer still dwarfs the NRL.

      The problem with social media is people like you who do not raise any relevant discussion points, but feel the need to make condescending comments. I can accept people having a different opinion to me, that's life! I can't accept condescending pricks like yourself. Please have a proper discussion or fuck off
  • I have two words for an open slather and transfer fee system.

    Dennis Tutty

  • Angry Eel, why does the burden of sensible discourse fall solely on your respondent (me in this case), and not on yourself? An open slather and no cap system is so evidently absurd that the burden of justifying it surely falls on its proponent? If you do not like being mocked, do not talk dribble. If you can't hack a bit of condescension, don't talk dribble and/or grow a spine. I won't tell you to f*** off, though, because I have a spine and can handle disagreement.

    Why is your open slather and no cap suggestion so silly? You use soccer as an example but you do not need Gini coefficients or assessments of competitive balance to conclude that soccer is not a good example to justify open slather. I am off to Barcelona soon for work, and did you know Barcelona and Madrid have won 3/4 of the Spanish League championships? Hardly an argument for a competition having anything remotely like checks against chronic weakness of clubs and seriously skewed competitive balance. And what, you don't know what a Gini coefficient is, but you think you're on solid ground proposing open slather? We could discuss that every major sporting competition on the planet, bar soccer (which now has fair dealing rules in place, by the wa, so no cap but not open slather), has some kind of cap (MLB, NFL, NBA etc), which ought to be a clue against no cap open slather. But we could just say that if you want a measure of soccer fan's own disquiet about their situation, just see how much joy they showed when Leicester won recently.

    PS: I still believe social media encourages half baked know nothing crap discourse. You can get your shorts in a knot about that all you want, but guess who doesn't care?
    • I should not have told you to f off but your original response annoyed me. Your second paragraph above outlines some good discussion points with no need for the other rubbish.

      Yes Barcelona and Real Madrid have dominated the Spanish league, however Athletico Madrid are now every chance to win the Spanish league this year, not to mention their champions league performance this year. Leicester won the Premier League this year not by buying the competition but through astute buying and selling. The beauty of the soccer system is that it gives the team with the contracted player all the aces. Man U made David De Gea who he is today. Real Madrid came knocking and thought they could bully Man U into selling him for less than he was worth. Man U held him and kept him for another year. Leicester may well lose the likes of Jamie Vardy in the summer, but they won't get any less than 20 million for making him who he is today, provided they want to sell him. As for soccer fans disquiet, the Premier League is the most watched competition in the world, I really don't think this is an issue, and whilst fans are upset when they lose their favourite players or stars, they understand the nature of the beast. Its no different to when players switch teams in the NRL. In fact transfer window deadline day has it's own show on SKY in the UK. We also see bottom 4 teams beat the top teams regularly. You even see second and third tier teams beat premier league sides in the FA cup.

      To put it in Rugby League terms, sides like Tigers, Parramatta, Penrith, St George, Brisbane will have better control of the dispersion of their Juniors, and will force sides like the Roosters or Melbourne to set up a better junior structure in country areas where country footy is on a massive decline. Melbourne need to be getting into the schools system in Melbourne, etc etc. If Manly want to buy the likes of Marty Tapou, than they are going to have to pay the Tigers for him, rather than in some cases where sides like the Tigers are paying players to play at other clubs which is wrong.

      The other advantage in this system is loan deals. Say Melbourne need a fullback and Bevan French isn't ready to play fullback at Parra, but we want him in the future, we can still hold on to him. He gets experience by playing first grade elsewhere and Melbourne get much needed reinforcements, the fans get to see better quality players in the NRL, win win for everyone.

        

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