Remember the season after we lost Semi? We came dead bloody last. If BA falls out of the top 8 he is toast.
The answer to not having those big cap hits long term is short contracts.
Brett Allen > Raptor JesusOctober 16, 2021 at 7:24pm
We didn't finish last because we lost Semi. 2018 was a confluence of a number of different forces.
Raptor Jesus > Brett AllenOctober 17, 2021 at 12:54pm
One of the factors being that we lost the best winger in the comp and tried to replace him with a reserve grader in George Jennings. It went just about as well as you would predict. Terribly.
This just illustrates the point that you can't replace rep quality players with reserve graders and expect the same outcome.
Replacing RCG with a reserve grader will have the same outcome. You need a like for like replacement. You can't just WISH that one of the juniors or reserve graders will turn rep quality. It doesn't work that way.
Would you run your business with just apprentices ? You need quality experienced tradesman. We haven't had fuck all tradesmen in any of the key positions for the current players in said positions to learn off . No Hooker , no 5/8 , No halfback , RCG is the first real big bopper our young bucks can take something from. Yes they'll have next year , but unless they're exceptional talents it's not enough. Anyone that's played grade as a young bloke knows who showed them the ropes. It was always the older blokes you absorbed off. .
Brett Allen > Wizardssleeves official receiptsOctober 16, 2021 at 7:26pm
We still have Junior, Nathan Brown, Papa & Ryan Matterson. Our forward pack is not lacking for toughness, experience or leadership.
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He is good yes. I would take him.
You need a mix of established stars and promising juniors.
AFB is an established dominant forward.
Hollis/Rodwell/Greig/Kaufusi can still be bench forwards doing their apprenticeship even if we buy AFB.
So how many more years are you prepared to wait for that to be a possability based on an if? RCG is proven, these others are not.
Remember the season after we lost Semi? We came dead bloody last. If BA falls out of the top 8 he is toast.
The answer to not having those big cap hits long term is short contracts.
We didn't finish last because we lost Semi. 2018 was a confluence of a number of different forces.
One of the factors being that we lost the best winger in the comp and tried to replace him with a reserve grader in George Jennings. It went just about as well as you would predict. Terribly.
This just illustrates the point that you can't replace rep quality players with reserve graders and expect the same outcome.
Replacing RCG with a reserve grader will have the same outcome. You need a like for like replacement. You can't just WISH that one of the juniors or reserve graders will turn rep quality. It doesn't work that way.
Would you run your business with just apprentices ? You need quality experienced tradesman. We haven't had fuck all tradesmen in any of the key positions for the current players in said positions to learn off . No Hooker , no 5/8 , No halfback , RCG is the first real big bopper our young bucks can take something from. Yes they'll have next year , but unless they're exceptional talents it's not enough. Anyone that's played grade as a young bloke knows who showed them the ropes. It was always the older blokes you absorbed off. .
We still have Junior, Nathan Brown, Papa & Ryan Matterson. Our forward pack is not lacking for toughness, experience or leadership.
How sad.
There's a fair resume amongst their pack. Not to mention they've done their apprenticeship under a fair bunch of pommy brothers.
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