This discussions continues on the ongong saga of R&R.
One of our more erstwhile commentator's said Roosters are chasing Farnsworth, told you they were better at recruiting than us. Thats all no explanation, no alternative, just the critique.
Let's use this as a matter for the discussion on Herbie, if he was going to move for money and lets assume that money is not really a problem for the Roosters, ask yourself the question what sort of premium he would want to play for a club like Parra as against the positive relevances of playing for the Roosters..... our aim and my aim as a supporter is to one day put ourselves in the position of NO premium to be paid, maybe just the honour of playing with such a respected club. That respect doesn't exist at present, only once in our lives as a club did it ever exist.
Penrith for all their success have not challenged with the cheque book in this era of them establishing where we want to be.
That goal for us should be more important than winning a premiership, because its "Chicken and Egg" territory. One follow's the other.
Deciding the answer to that, you will then see we have to be smarter in recruitment, Parra's management will always be restricted by it's self imposed constitution and whilst we can open the cheque book for 1,2 or even 3 players it will always be NOT bottomless, even with forthcoming TPA's.
Yes we can spend money but like choosing the "grail" it needs to be done wisely. Again lets look at the example of getting Herbie for say 1.2m (200k premium) and an alternative of say getting Bostock for 750k again a 200k premium, we just saved half a million by making a jusgement on potential, that's what I mean by being smarter when opening our cheque book.
Have a look at what Canterbury have done trying to buy a premiership with a guy like Laundy pulling the financial strings. Obviously that club has developed no character in its process and will continue to suffer whilst it fcuks around playing its players like Chess Pieces.
We are witnessing (we hope) the development of that special character at Parra, we started doing it in 2015 and we have had a couple of false starts and loss of objectivity, but the process is starting to look better with the types of improvement we are seeing from a "virtual" reserve grade side and a coach and management not losing their "bundle".
One thing I noticed last night in Ryles talking, he was not looking short term, he was talking in terms of what we are planning (building).
He has shown me he has a vision and its just not his contract life at Parra and that some of our losers on here suggesting that he will move to another club, rather than witness the fcuk ups here or the dismantling of the sacrifices made to be here.......just remember we went into that game with 10 players out through injury, more than any other club in this round.
I was heartened by what I saw last night and in our last few games, a virtual Reserve Grade Side holding its own!
Now that is character building!
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We need something to get excited about for 2027. Nothing seems to be happening. The current crop of players will not get anymore than 10 wins next year and that's being optimistic. No junior superstar close to debuting. Only decent back ups as forwards. Nothing for the backline.
"If you PAY them, they will come"
Sounds like a Hooker!
How about "we build it" and they will come!
Well written Poppa. What the club is trying to do makes a lot of logical sense in the long term, and overpaying for players is a great way to sink a club.
I know, I know, things are different with Ryles now so we should give them time. And our younger players are showing a lot of promise.. But it's also soooo hard for fans to stay patient especially after all these years.
It feels like I'm in the desert begging for a drop of water. Just drip feed us with one big name signing or something hahaha
This.
A quality player makes surrounding players better.
Sloth, thanks for your compliments. Over paying is only relevant in certain circumstances, I am more than happy to go along with that. Idealogy of mine is pay peanuts you get monkeys.....stay patient mate, "winning" is just as big an artform when character building as "losing"......don't lose sight of the fact that these are not "sheep stations" with lives at risk.
Lets imagine for a minute that we had an unlimited amount of money and so picked a team and bought it as a combination of the best of two Origin sides.....would you really be happy winning on these circumstances, I suggest it would be rather hollow......what we are doing is a much greater challenge.....It's possible! Penrith have done it the hard way, I wonder when they will start stuffing it up.....or will they not let that happen?
Penrith are the image of where we should always have been after the 80's.Its time to restate our potential and to so means a combination of lots of things.
Hilly, "
"A quality player makes surrounding players better."
Do you think that anyone would disagree with that Hilly.....but it is just the same "pure rhetoric".
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