OPINION v FACTS.

There will always be opinion and there will always be facts, but where is the dividing line separating one from the other.

Mr Ripley of "Believe it not" fame tells us, "The truth is NOT what you see, it is NOT what you hear, it is what YOU believe.

So with that in mind here is something we all need to listen to as the season is about to begin.

You know I am right - just admit it.

https://youtu.be/IABRgZH12YA

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  • Col, Well one could argue some facts aren't truths.

    Some facts are social and cultural agreements: A collective opinion agreed as a fact. 

    For example it was a fact the earth was flat.

    • What do you mean - the earth was flat?

      • Everyone agreed it was flat, so it was a fact. There's plenty of things we agree on today because of untested assumptions.

      • LOL Col. Perhaps the earth has changed shape recently.

    • Therein lies the difference between fact and truth.

      It was a fact that the Earth was flat. Columbus discovered the truth that it wasn't.

      • Therein lies an opinion - the fact was never discovered until the opinion was disproved.

        Ripley comes into this quite nicely - the "truth" to the people was what they belived - but it was not fact.

  • Thank you very much Col for  your post  and the link . It’s truthful . 

  • The ant, the mouse and the MAN. Look at a strech of coast line and a MAN walks along it and walks a certain distance but a mouse will walk the same strech of coastline and the mouse will walk a lot further because it goes goes up and nown more nooks and crevices. But if an ant walks along it, the ant will walk an even greater distance because it will go into even more nooks and crevices. So what really is the distance of the coastline? It cannot be defined. All definitions are not the truth because they are just the fantasies of definitions imagined (believed) as being reality. A MAN acting as the definition is not proof of fact. Bring forth the definition without a MAN acting as (representing) the wagging tongue and swiggly fingers of the definition. The wagging tomgue and scribly fingers of a MAN is not proof of fact. 

    • ffs

    • The unalterable fact is distance can be measured along the coastline.

      In my opinion the accepted form of wrting scribly is scribbly - which is the factual spelling?

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