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        Mallee57 > Prof. Daz June 11, 2026 at 1:22am

        My mistake he played 13 games in 2025 out of 27 rounds which equates to around 48% But you can double check as you probably will 
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  Parra_Greg June 10, 2026 at 5:12pm

  Again missing the point...Any idiot knows that rep exposure is vitally important.in the right context..  What is Parramatta getting in return from a 32 year old injury prone half back prioritising Origin over a club that needs all the help it can get presently ?

   
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    LB > Parra_Greg June 10, 2026 at 6:57pm

    How is he prioritizing Origin? Doctors rules him out. As I said before you really think Moses sat out of Dogs voluntarily, the competitor he is? Considering he has played nearly every game this year busted up?
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      Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve > LB June 10, 2026 at 8:14pm

      I think the consensus is he sat it out under doctors advice to be able to play for NSW as it was only 95%. . I think it's fair to assume he yes , voluntarily sat it out under said advise from the doctors that if he plays he could re injure it and be out of Origin contention .  Nobody's saying he just got up and went " stuff it can't be bothered " 
      
      

      Thats what I took out of the dialogue over the weekend. Ryles seemed a bit irritated when asked about Moses being out on doctors advice .  
      
      

       

      maybe I missed something ? I didn't catch every story or report on his injury. 
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        LB > Wizard “Alcatraz “Sleeve June 10, 2026 at 9:06pm

        If the doctors say the risk of reinjury is too high, then that's a medical decision first and foremost. People are turning it into an Origin decision without actually knowing that.

        Even if he was supposedly 95%, that doesn't mean he was cleared to play. Plenty of players are 90-95% and still get ruled out because the remaining 5% presents too much risk. The question isn't whether he was close to playing, it's whether the medical staff were comfortable taking that risk. From everything we've heard, they weren't.

        Had he played against the Dogs and suffered a setback, he might not only miss Origin, he could miss several games for Parramatta as well. Protecting a player from reinjury isn't automatically prioritising Origin. With hamstrings being so touchy as well you want to make sure he is 110%. By the time Origin is on next Wednesday he would well and truly be right and we have the bye next week so he doesn't have to back-up.

        And if we're talking about voluntary decisions, where's the evidence Moses overruled anyone or chose not to play? Everything that came out was that the club doctors advised against it and Ryles made the call.

        To me there's a big difference between "95% fit but not cleared" and "fit to play but chose Origin instead."
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          Mallee57 > LB June 10, 2026 at 9:37pm

          

          Crichton's risk is probably much higher him playing against the Dogs. A severe AC joint injury (initially graded as severe as Grade 5). Is worse than a hamstring strain according to Google 
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            LB > Mallee57 June 10, 2026 at 10:50pm

            

            That’s not really a valid comparison. Different injuries, different demands, and different risk profiles.

            That’s not really accurate because “risk” depends on what you’re measuring. A Grade 5 AC joint has higher structural shoulder risk in contact situations, but a hamstring strain carries a very high reinjury risk under sprinting and kicking loads which is exactly what a halfback does all game. So it’s not valid to just say one is higher risk overall; they fail in completely different ways depending on position and demands.

            An AC joint injury is mainly about contact tolerance and can sometimes be managed with strapping depending on role. A hamstring issue directly affects sprinting, acceleration, and kicking, which is exactly what a halfback relies on every set.

            Also, we only see the cases where someone plays through it, not the cases where players are ruled out to avoid turning a minor strain into a 4–6 week injury. That’s survivorship bias, not a consistent standard.
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              Prof. Daz > LB June 11, 2026 at 12:35am

              

              LB, it's already been pointed out to these dudes that a shoulder is more resilient than a hamstring. The shoulder is designed to rotate and has redundant 'parts' that add stability. Hence why we see players with so much strapping on the shoulder(s). It can be managed snd often is managed. This is common knowledge. 

              Hamstring injuries have very high recurrence rates. Across all athletic endeavors. Also common knowledge. 
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              Mallee57 > LB June 11, 2026 at 12:44am

              

              Yet it's strange that Ryles was going to let/consider Moses to play 'limited' game time against the Dogs but then thought it best to not take the risk so he could have better chance to represent the state. Yet he will only be able to play Origin 2 'IF' can perform 'full' Sprinting today (Thursday)! Which is only 3 days from when he could have played 'limited' game time against the Dogs. There's every possible chance doing full sprinting to prove his place in Origin 2 could make his injury worse just as much as if he played limited time against the dogs. Seems they're more concerned he's ready for Origin than playing for his club. But what do I know? 
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              Mallee57 > LB June 11, 2026 at 12:57am

              

               a Grade 5 AC joint injury is significantly more severe and carries a much higher risk of immediate, game-worsening complications and long-term issues than a Grade 1 hamstring strain. 

              Grade 5 AC Joint Injury (Severe Shoulder Separation)

              • The Damage: A Grade 5 AC joint injury involves the complete rupture of the ligaments stabilizing the collarbone to the shoulder blade, often resulting in significant displacement (the collarbone pops up). 
              • Game Risks: The shoulder is highly unstable. In a heavy-contact sport like rugby league, taking repeated hits, making tackles, or landing heavily on the point of the shoulder can easily worsen the tear, cause further structural damage, or lead to chronic long-term instability
              • Management & Aggravation: While players (such as Stephen Crichton during his ongoing 2026 shoulder battles) can sometimes push through via aggressive rehabilitation, heavy padding, and pain-killing injections, doing so elevates the risk of ongoing aggravation and limits physical function
                
                Grade 1 Hamstring Strain (Minor Muscle Tweak)
                • The Damage: This is a mild over-stretching or micro-tearing of a few muscle fibers in the hamstring, resulting in minimal loss of function or strength.
                • Game Risks: Unlike a separated shoulder, there is no major structural instability. While there is a risk of the muscle tear progressing if the player sprints maximally, it doesn't carry the risk of the severe, sudden joint collapse associated with a Grade 5 AC separation.
                • Management: With proper warm-up, strapping, and immediate recovery protocols (like the hamstring tightness Mitchell Moses faced before representative matches), the risk of catastrophic worsening is much lower