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"If it doesn't matter then who cares? You could say the topic overall of X-Factor is subjective. There would be people who say Cleary is not the best player in the world and that is subjective. You argued about Walsh saying about not going length of…"
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If this lot were in Jamestown, they would all be convincing themselves that the cordial was very nice!"
If this lot were in Jamestown, they would all be convincing themselves that the cordial was very nice!"
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Well just have to see what he has planned. Could he be just good about it as he is that way as a person or coach? Or is it a strategic decision? Or could he be putting on a brave fave where deep down he is livid and worried?
I don't know, all it was is Ryles took it well and was open to negotiating.
I mean it seemed different with Simonsson where it seems he got him back on side to stay. So not like every player he has say they want out he just toes the line.
Lomax is our To'o but man To'o is better. For his size the shit he can do is insane.
To'o doesn't kick goals so there is that also Lomax has that point of difference over just about every other winger in the comp.So that ability to effects games and results aswell.
Good point. Goalkicker tax is up there with leadership tax.
The biggest tax of all is being in the bottom 4-5 teams the last 3 years.This goes without saying if you want top tier talent without TPAs you pay for it on the cap.
73% conversion rate. I wouldn't put him in the elite of goal kicking this year for sure. Considering up to 10 1st choice kickers at least had better percentage than him this year. If I'm wanting someone to kick for my life I ain't considering Lomax.
He is a top Winger but again X-factor? I wouldn't even call To'o X-Factor either. X-Factor is a term used so loosely when it should be for those once in a generation type talents and/those who can take a team from 10-12 down and single handedly win the game.
The one kick that put him above the rest was against the Dragons from 40 out to tie it up.
Xfactor imo is something helps a team get a result the more influence you have on games this imo decides what that exactly is.People are trying to put xfactor in a box to quantify what it is Pou mentions leadership there's another thing not mentioned.I mentioned goalkicking and yardage coming out.The fact teams gameplan around how to stop Lomax chasing and competing for those high kicks alone tells me that's an xfactor player purely because on a teams defensive tip sheet during the week they'll have a plan for Lomax whatever that maybe throw in elite yardage player and goalkicking as other strings to his bow tells me he's got that xfactor.
Much like Sivo and Radradra before him.
See I would have Radradra as X-factor, his ability to just create something from nothing. Sivo I wouldn't say was X-Factor. 2019 showed glimpses.
Yeah teams plan for great players, I was involved with an interview for Luke Vella on a podcast I was on, he mentioned his role and how he and the dogs staff game planned for certain players. They were playing Manly and he mentioned a game plan for Garrick and Talau. Do we consider them X-Factor just because their is a gameplan on them defensively?
Im glad that you said in your opinion though, if in your opinion an X-factor means that then that's as you say your opinion, though that puts the group into more broad category. To me X-Factor is a smaller more select group that not only helps a team win, but makes a team win. Does Brisbane win on Sunday without Walsh? That's what I see as X-Factor. Despite the fact that Shibasaki had 200 metres running and two tries, Walsh was apart of his two tries. Doesn't mean Shibasaki is not good, he still needed to do his job but it Walsh that was the main facilitator.
To me, I put it down to if you are down by 4 with 2 mins to go, who is the person you are looking at to win you that game? That is an X-factor. Those who do it multiple times.
Are there any in NZ or Fiji rugby we should look at Coryn though with X-factor traits?
Xfactor is different for every team not just a certain trait.
JWH I'd say he's an xfactor player not because of performance necessarily but because everyone follows a guy like him going into battle.He leads from the front and every foward pack needs an alpha.
Does he do all the flashy stuff no he doesn't does he have an effect on the scoreboard no he doesn't but do fowards and everyone else look across the dressing room and he lifts confidence within the team xfactor.
Too much is made of what xfactor actually means because it is a broad discussion just not in the highlight box like everyone wants it to be.
One thing I'll say and this isn't mentioned if you go to 16 nrl coaches outside of JR and ask what they think of Lomax I think then you get a more definitive answer of what Lomax really is as a player and if he has the mentioned.
Well Coryn when he was available last year, not many teams went for him to be fair. Not saying that means Lomax is not great but not many clubs were getting out their check books to sign him desperately. Unlike when if the likes of Walsh or Cleary or Papenhuyzen or Teddy if they were to come available which rarely happens with only Pap coming available.
Not saying either those coaches of other teams do not see him as a great player, i reckon Ryles would have got here with Lomax already and thought "Great to have him". Though would be fascinated to see if how many of the 16 agree or disagree as not all 16 will say the same thing.
Coryn, i do feel you're right in your 4th part, i guess it comes to X-Factor being that standard factor of being very broad to what many people feel is important to a team more than others. I consider X-factors to be a small group, you consider more players in that sense. I do not put it down to a certain trait as aspects that make a team win by one player can be different moments or things. Like i will Walsh again as an example, 40/20 v Canberra or that try v Melbourne, or the play on Kamikamica are to me X-Factor plays as those moments you look back and say that made them win.
I do not mind your leadership arguement as i have always advocated for players like JWH in that opposition and will and look and think "Christ, this guy".
Keep talking the X factor LB, you have nearly convinced yourself.....the rest of us left that stop 2 pages ago!
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