Personally I don't really mind this..his a rocks and diamonds player.Liability in defence and to many errors a game.Just a backup player at best.with sua taking his spot this is what our 27 side will prob look like before future signings and what we know now.
1.Isiah iongi
2.Bailey simonsson
3.Will penisni
4.?
5.Josh addocarr
6.Lorenzo maybe if ready
7.Mitchell moses
8.Go to market
9.Ryley smith
10.Junior?(go to market)
11.Kitione kautoga
12.Jayden sua
13.Jmaine hopgood
14.Tayln da Silva
15.Dylan walker
16.Sam tuivati
17.Charlie guymer
18.Joash papalii
19.Jordan samrani
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Cheika would be interesting, he definitely has a presence. Not sure he has the credentials, but it would definitely be worth the exploration.
As for MON, I agree the actual job description he applied for (it was online) and the statement the club provided was potentially vague in retrospect. But this is just sloppy by Bernie and the team prior. Senior positions should definitely have ambiguous responsibilities but they should NEVER have ambiguous outcomes.
And everyone knows that if more than one person is accountable for something then no one is accountable.
So whilst the Head Coach and a bunch of others should absolutely be consulted during things like R&R conversations, the accountability reads as if it was with MON, as it should have been.
As an exec, all accountability ends with me. It doesn't matter if 1000 people helped and informed me, if it goes belly up...it's on me. If MON wasn't ready to be a GM then we shouldn't have hired him as one. I'm actually more cranky at the folks in charge who have let MON publicly flounder for this long without putting out the flames or putting him out of his misery.
Anyways, I'm very interested in your Cheika thought. He's a well connected guy.
As far as player retention goes, it's up to the coach who we chase, sign or re-sign, not MON.
The job description MON was hired under and the club statement of his appointment contradict your view Michael.
Of course the coach is involved. But the buck stops with the GM of Football as per the clubs statements.
Surely you can't be that naive to think that MON has more say in recruitment than Ryles.
I guess all that information over the years stating that the coach asks for a certain type of player and then RnR get one.
Now I assume JR can then veto it but if they tell him it's that guy or no-one (or the best we can get) what choice does he have?
Of course, JR might indeed say I want DeBelin but I am at a loss as to why he would.
You have no idea how recruitment works. JR gets the final say on who we chase, sign or re-sign, it's his job on the line.
He doesn't do the wheeling and dealing, its up to the recruitment team headed by mon to get deals done. The players ryles wanted he didn't get so was left with the scraps the club could sign.
Its the wheeling and dealing that we cannot judge but JC, the cap restrictions come into play then.
No but in principle Cappy is right, as you are in saying what you have said.
The ambiguity of the process is Cappy's point and that is valid.....saying that gets us nowhere just the same. Cheika is a true businessman, who understands the constraints but also be commercial savy, would know how to handle a board and the way they think.
His football qualifications are enhanced and I think with Ryles and his retrospective Rugby backgrounds they could work well together.
He was of course an original applicant for the coaching job but he is bigger than that worrying him and he would be a much greater force than MON.....I would even keep him on for the lessor duties described if there are any loyalty factors......i.e do the job he does without that title and the responsibilities as listed.
Cheika is a genuine General Manager, not a puppet one!
Kautoga needs to be out of the Fkn team his a fkn plodder !
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