Jarryd Hayne- Trial Commences this week

As per the heading Jarryd Haynes trial commences this week.  Great image for the NRL with De Belins trial currently going on for sexual assault related offences and now Jarryd Haynes for similar.  Anyway, reading the article, it appears that he has returned from his Christian Mission in Perth and has been training with current and former members of the Eels squad in Sydney and still has hopes of returning the the NRL. I make no comment in relation to the charges, trial or allegations for obvious reasons and would ask people to do the same. ( Super if that cannot be controlled or exposes the site then comfortable with and decision you make).

If he is guilty of the offences he has been charged with, then I hope he gets what he deserves.  Likewise, if he is inncocent, I hope he gets the outcome he deserves in that regard.   If found guilty, it is career over in my opinion.

 

If however he is acquitted, who thinks at age 32 any NRL Club would offer him a final crack? Would anyone want him back at the Eels?  Would he be a replacement for Jennings for example? Are we better having moved on and leaving it at that?

 

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    • Very true. Like I said much much cheaper, easier and smarter to see a paid professional than take a risk these days even more than ever with social media etc. I’ve always wondered why there are no repercussions for eg in Brett Stewart or Semis case against the false accuser. Semis wife admitted she made it up due to jealousy. Why can’t they charge those that do that? It would be fair on the bloke falsely accused whose life is affected for ever but also Fair on the true victims coming forward and the false accusers affect as well. 

      It does sound like she was mightily pissed off that he kept the cab waiting out front for 45mins more than anything  and it was not the “I’m dating the rich and gorgeous sports star” night she hoped it would be  ...sounded like she felt very scorned about that.

      • Yes macy I agree. If Jack De Belins accuser came out tomorrow and said that it was all fictitious then how do we compensate Jack for the 3 years of his life ? What about the reputational damage ? But then , what is the alternative? 

        • In QueeRZland there are laws to take false accusers to court with the possibilty of a jail sentence.

          Compensation can only be achieved through private litigation I think

          • We are halfway thru the trial, and while hoping for an acquittal for hayne, I realise the verdict can still go either way.                                  Hayne has been dealt no favours by the local press's ( The Herald ) coverage of the case last week. While its customary to expect the Press to be fair in its coverage of a criminal trial, the Herald showed, on its front page midweek, a very grim-faced Jarryd Hayne, sheltering behind dark sunglasses outside the court accompanied by the Headline " I kept saying NO...NO....NO". ,This appeared to show blatant bias against Hayne and I was dismayed to see it. I just hope it doesn't sway anyone who has a decision to make next week.                     In the event he wins his case, he will definitely want to play footy again, so I hope we have some cap space left to fit him in,                       

            • The leftist propoganda marxist media never favours the innocent.

            • Take all your points on board Richard......if you follow this thread you will note FH's comments on a jury trial. I am becoming more sure now that he has gone for the jury trial knowing it would be a good chance of being upheld on appeal, if he doesn't win it outright. Lots of contradictions in the evidence to make it a "no doubt" decision. Remember the appellant court only reads transcripts, the emotion is washed clear.

              Those headlines in the local paper will only add fuel to an appeal if it is required.

              I was pretty confident that this would be thrown out at some stage, but the longer it goes on the worse it becomes for Hayne.......His lawyer is supposedly brilliant and we cannot summate the contradictions from where we sit or in turn the views of the "body language" that the jury see's. 

              My guess is that come the summing up stage, it will come down to his and her word, none of the other witnesses have changed that thrust.

              The defence will outline the inconsistiencies in her testimony with the main ones seemingly coming from the prosecuters who don't seem to have tied together statements i.e. he had a nose bleed, she has embellished this to her mother.....how much more embellishment took place with other family, as they were the ones that coerced her into charging him. 

              These cases are unbelievably embarrassing for all parties and when she has text and instagram proof of wanting to F**k him, sending him nude and lingerie pictures then she does place a deal of mitigation on herself.....the NO claim is pretty adamment on her part and equally contra on Haynes.

              When she is retelling this story to family members, she is understandably putting herself in the best light, history in these type of cases tends to say the complaintent never quite tells exactly what did happen.

              The intercepted calls between her and Hayne and Hayne and his mates do nothing to incriminate him and on the contrary it seems that Hayne is surprised it even happened......how drunk he was doesn't do him any favours!

              Finally the De Belin case came back today with a hung jury and i suspect something similar could be happening in that trial.

              Question for the legal experts, principally FH. If an appeal is granted does the prosecutor sum up his chances differently with a judge making the decision and could the prosecution decide not to proceed with the potential of expenses going against the crown?

              further question could something like that also happen in the De bellin hung jury case, rather than going to the expense of a retrial?

            • Agree totally Richard. Like I said earlier, some of the reporting has left out some important things about what was said. The headlines are frighteningly one sided. Tbh as much as I’ve been following the case I don’t really think it’s fair on either party the press is allowed to give a blow by blow running commentary. As I said the jurors are only human! 

              Today the sensationalised headline ‘Hayne admits he was knocked back twice by lady he accused of sexually assaulting” Fox Sports!!! Ffs sake what is any person going to think about that headline when the accused is  in a rape trial!?!? it was that he asked her to go to the party and she said no. Fox sports click baiting a wider audience but that’s disgusting.

              like I said before he has always been a one man walking headline so they gonna cash in on this one understand that - but the jury are only human.

        • Yes FH see your point in regards to “what is the alternative?”

          just seems that we never hear of anyone charged after the event eg Semi’s wife - who openly admitted she accused him out of spiteful jealousy. 

          And therein lies my point. It is not only the obvious damage inflicted onto the accused etc for vexatiously bringing charge; it also makes it harder for the genuine victims of abuse to come forward for fear of being bundled in the same basket as someone that brings forward allegations  out of  whatever spiteful reason they may have. Cant see that helps  the genuine victim at all.

          Imo it would help if there was some sort of press related acknowledgement the person was charged for lodging the proven vexatious allegation would help the genuine victims lodge.

          • Agree 100% but it's a hot topic. It's like suggesting that women commit domestic violence - some people just don't want to know. 

      • Im not making any judgements but in NSW a person can be charged with 

        Make False Statement, perjury etc and comes under the charge,s of

        Perverting The Course of Justice - and comes with  a maximum 14 years imprisonment.

        Make false Statement - comes with maximum 7 years imprisonment.

        Mind you there is nothing wrong in telling the truth to a court and not being believed, or what you say isnt enough evidence to convict a person.

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