Barret, Hasler, Walters all considered being good coaches.Some coaches have won premierships in the past and performed very well with certain teams and put into a different scenario have folded..Some have often passionately wanted to secure a coach to replace Arthur and these coaches haven,t come up to scratch..Cleary has been a surprise packet with doing some great work in playing style..What is the formulae for a successful team when we see these types of anomalies? How does a coach grow in his coaching and why do coaches fail?
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You would think that is the case, but in practice for team sports failure usually falls with the coach.
It's starts off with the club, then the people who run the football side, the coach and then the cattle.
Take the Master coach Bennett and put him in charge of the Dogs, Manly or Tigers and there's not much he can do. The Broncos have great youngsters but they fucked up real bad with Fifita. He should have been the 1st they signed. Not the Lodges and others. I'm sure Walters will turn them around but they need some experienced heads at 7 and 9 to turn a corner.
The Titans are a good example how they managed to turn things around within 12 months. They have Meninga working behind the scenes who's brought in a coach with a good record, he pulled a master stroke in moving to Ash Taylor 5/8 taking him away from the responsibility of running the team because he's mentally fragile but still has the skill to play. Reeled in the hottest property in the NRL (Fifita), bring in 2 big boppers who are also mobile (Big Tino and Ese-ese) and they have good foundations. They will be a force once they get a couple more players.
Manly won't be able to do anything unless they unload a couple big contracts and start blooding decent juniors. The Dogs have had a couple decent purchases but are still 2-3 players short of becoming competitive.
The Tigers..I don't know where to start..they fuck up all the time shooting themselves in the foot losing marquee players and signing duds on big money (Joey Leilua, Josh Reynolds, Mbye, Brookes all on 700K+ each)
Mate don't give Meninga too much credit for The Titans form .
Check out any anomalies. Broncos have I would think a good club, good coach, good roster. Is it the vibe. Yes Mick. Good point. If that is the case how do you fix it?
I've said it before the Broncos biggest issue is that they are no longer the gold standard, but they still think they are. Seriously, the media up here in Brisbane are utterly clueless and never hold the Broncos accountable. They still think that it is 1995.
The Boncs have a great squad. but performance is questionable. Once they are set backwards with some scoring against them they fold Note how Fifita is playing now in a new club..Is it the Vibe ? which includes a lot of backroom work? Probably something to do with attitude and never say die. Attitude as any other human trait around physical and mental effort is contagious.
Clubs have to be able to hold their nerve. Just don't throw money at the unknown and hope.
luck has a big part to play also.
club leadership
recruitment
coach
player leadership
players
X factor
cap management
land a shot tonne of luck
thats why it's so hard to win a premiership.
Spot on Rider, that first statement, they've gotta hold their nerve, they can't be reactive.
I believe the big aspect is the players themselves, and how they gel together as a team. The coach basicially is a plan setter, also the one that sets the team structures, and forms player relationships.
With the move these days to multi numbers of coaches each with specific areas to control/manage, the teams success is built very much on overall relationships within the playing team and coaching staff. No doubt also is the way that the clubs management goes about their roles in player contract negotiations and working with the on field coaches and the players themselves.
In Cleary's case he's a local boy who works with the local players well, and blends them all together. The balance also is how he works with the imported players and, ones he's prepared to let go, and wants to keep. Having a fair nursery helps as well.
Looking at the Hasler's, Madge empires I don't see them as the right fit for the clubs and that is where the actual club management sits in getting the coaches that are needed. How often does a coach that has left a club and then returned for another round really ever works? Also the attitudes of the coaches in how they address and manage the players. Seems to me a fine line between managing them as adult players as against spoilt children. Too many high profile players in a team can cause conflict and who is the right one to keep or let go.
Sensible club management as to contracts, as well as the relationships that are across the board are vital, especially with player coach relationships, to which I believe that exists at the eels, and at some of the other clubs. The mass changing of coaches places a lot of uncertainty in the minds of players as well.
We've all lived it first hand. If we haven't learnt by now we never will.
It's the club's management from the very top down.
When the Eels NRL side was controlled by the Leagues Club and the Leagues Club was controlled by chaotic elections every 2 years, the entire place was a rabble. Totally and utterly. A revolving door of Board members, head coaches, CEO's and staff. It was impossible to build towards anything because we were constantly knocking down the entire place and starting again. Now we have world class structures in place, it means we now have stable and professional management which means we make good decisions throughout the business. We're by no means perfect but we are miles in front of most clubs these days.
Look at Souths today vs Souths that got booted out of the game and were perennial cellar dwellers. It started with new owners who installed professional management and Board.
Look at Penrith. Love him or hate him but Gus Gould built the house that Ivan Cleary now lives in.
Get it right off the field first. This will mean better decisions are made and the right structures are put in place. This takes time, as in 5+ years to turn the ship around. There are no shortcuts and some clubs haven't learnt that lesson yet.
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