Courtesy from the cumberland throw
Apparently The SMH Carrayannis has said the Moses Suli links with Parramatta are incorrect.
Jayden Sua out 14 weeks. Pectoral
Jessie Mclean linked to.the Eels
Milky Jenkins
Spencer Leniu
Burton
Moses Suli. - No. - Fake news
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Lack of success at a club ends up leading to a drop in money. Drop in crowd revenue, drop in membership, drop in merchandise, drop in sponsorship.
I've seen this statement time and time again and under any form of decent interrogation it falls apart. If, as you say, our exec only cares about money, where the hell does the money come from?
You know what provides the biggest financial windfall in the NRL? Winning a competition.
If our exec was all about money, why didn't they just accept the six figures the Storm offered for Lomax?
If it was all about money, why did they commit to the CoE which cost an incredible amount of money even with government support?
If it was all about money, then why do we have full time junior pathways coaches when no other club does that?
Any football club administrator will tell you that you cannot have a long-term sustainable business without onfield success. Our name was dirt following 2016 and then 2018. We couldn't attract sponsors. We even played without one in 2017 and then grabbed whoever we could in 2018.
There's little wonder we managed to become much more commercially attractive when we were finals regulars. And if things don't turn around, it will hurt financially.
So to say they only care about the bottom line is to completely ignore the actual basis of financial success for the football club.
Chief mate, you've been the one banging the drum, you're the one who set the blog up. I'm not singling you out, you did that yourself.
And I don't need to put a blog up just because you ask me to.
I respect everyone's right to have a say, and everyone can. But just because you stick a blog up and everyone says we should sack the head of football, doesn't mean it's either accurate or the correct decision.
If the club starts reacting to what fans online think should happen in the management of the football department, we'll very quickly collapse completely. You end up listening to the fans you end up sitting with them.
Also , i have nothing to gain from all of this. Ive always had the club first focus. I could step aside tomorrow and relax in Mexico become a football fan
Why would Petrus sign a contract locking him into Parramatta when he knows the Chiefs are entering the competition?
I'm interested in understanding how you state that clubs have signed their best juniors until 2029 and 2030. Are these juniors in pathways, or have they debuted already?
Under NRL rules you can only sign players to a full time top-30 or dev deal at the age of 18, train and trials can only be formalised at 17.
I understand we're in discussions with Tuivaiti for an extension.
Teancum Brown has been extended to the end of 2028.
Lorenzo Talataina extended to the end of 2028.
Charlie Guymer extended to the end of 2028.
And the idea that R&R is "asleep at the wheel" indicates you are not at all across our junior pathways, Chief. Because back in 2024 we extended Lincoln Fletcher, Ryda Talagi and Lachlan Coinakis to the end of 2027 as soon as we could.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts on Brisbane's retention of Coby Black? You know that stand out Brisbane pathways halfback who played for Under 19 Qld. Surely a powerhouse club like Brisbane wouldn't have let their best halves prospect since Ben Hunt go to a rival?
And surely Brisbane weren't asleep at the wheel when they retained the services of Payne Haas? No chance he's leaving, is there?
The Roosters, meanwhile, being the professionals they are, they wouldn't have had Ethan Strange in their pathways and then released him? They weren't asleep at the wheel? Surely the presence of John Strange coaching at the Roosters would have meant they tied him down long term?
By the way, I'm not pointing this out to say Parramatta's recruitment and retention is perfect. I'm doing this to highlight 2 things:
- Chief's fascination with just sacking people speaks to a misunderstanding of junior pathways
- The NRL junior market is a fluid beast with clubs losing and signing players on a regular basis (yes, even the supposed "premier" clubs)
That line about other clubs tying their best juniors up until 2029 and 2030 is fairly inaccurate, given most clubs are extending their NRL players that long, but not their juniors, because most of their juniors are an unknown quantity so they can't commit a top 30 spot to them in 3 years time. A couple may extend 1 junior player that long. But contracts of that length generally only get handed to known NRL players.
Like our contracts to Tallyn, Mitch and Jaydn.
What has that got do with what we have saying? Nothing about support for them, it is stating the facts about how we have signed juniors.
Chief you asked me to answer a question now you can answer one of mine.
Was it great business by this R&R to re-sign Talagi, depsite Penrith (a Powerhouse) wanting him and Blaize going there. And signing Koina, considered one of the best middle forwards in the country for his age, from Brisbane who are a premier junior base and rarely lose talent they want to keep? They wanted to keep him but he chose Parramatta.
Are those wins?
What i thought, no response as you cannot give them an ounce of credit and saying yes proves they are not a sleep at the wheel, well not all the time.
Hell you posted this blog saying the rumour is we are interested in Jenkins, McLean, Leniu and Burton and not signing Suli. But still it is sack MON. How about we wait to see if he can get any of those linked. If he can get 2-3, he's done well. If he only gets 1, then ok but needs to do better.
I'd sack everyone on our R and R side and wouldn't have any qualms doing so.
I'd also look to pair up an experienced team builder next to JR to oversee roster and recruitment decisions.IMO what I've seen the last 4-5 seasons it's not been good enough.
The only question I've ever had about the development is transference and what is the over arching aim.Is it to get players through our system or is it for players to excel at the high end.I'm seeing more of the first mentioned.
So where do we go from here do we continue along the same well worn path or do we try something new.Nathan Brown is a big piece from what I've been told in the development and transference space.We need to see better and a lot better if we are to be what we all want us to be.
Nor have I said it's all good enough, I've been on record saying I have no issues with MON being sacked. But also am pointing out things that they have done well.
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