CE, you realise we have a good back up for DB who if he does go it will be next year.
Volkman is an outstanding young player, I could not imagine us picking up someone at his level that is better or has more progression at this point. Further to that the strategic back up's all offer flexibility in the sense of 5/8. i.e. Joash Pappillii.
The hooker become's a different proposition but we have some confidence in Hands going to another level and Rylley Smith emerging.....
I really want us to not jump into forwards yet. I'd want to release 2-3 more of our forwards. I wanna see who steps up, and in which position in the forwards.
Pass! I prefer to develop our juniors. Tuivita apparently had a good running battle with junior. Hazelton is a bench forward at this stage of his career. Not worth the money.
Only issue with prioritising juniors is no guarantee they're up to the standard. How many times has there been a talent that everyone says is the real deal, come NRL they are average at best. Hazelton has shown he is NRL quality. Ofa is off-contract this year, Paulo and Matto next year. Willams and Moretti signed til 2027 but we need more and better middles. Tuivaiti could be good pairing with Ryda Talagi in 2027-2028, but we need experienced younger talent.
Depends what Ryles wants out of his middles to me Hazelton is another big guy who lacks lateral agility.
Its a hard one this but if I'm a head coach now I'm looking for athletic middles.It's the big reason why Junior and William look so trim this off season to get the more mobility back in the middle.We can't carry to many big guys anymore the games just moving away from those types and if guys like Junior and others can't match that part of the game around agility and mobility in the middle they'll be history too.
I agree with you Coryn, right down to the athletic aspects of our middles.
I would be surprised if Ryles would be interested in Hazelwood, especially when he is probably on about 300 a season, which is his right sort of price.
For the money quoted na, and I will keep banging the drum that we need no middles, not because we have amazing options, but because we have a weird mix now that needs to be streamlined before knowing what to add.
Not sure if Hazelton is what we need either anyway.
"I'm still seeing to many errors.
Im seeing finesse in the middle.
Its the little things I'm seeing that make the side a hard watch.
When your a team that's injured to buggery like we are simplify get footy 101 right.
I think this is what's going…"
"About farken time I've heard all year about these middles we have ready to come yet here we are we have to hit rock bottom before starting them.
Let them get in there rip in see what they have.
Sick of the sight of the soft finesse owned in contact…"
"like I said IF I / We didn't need the $30k and there was possibly of succumbing to an injury or exasperating a current injury then most players would decline. Moses is clearly in that current category. Does he really need the extra $30k maybe and…"
"Right and when they are off-contract and demand more money is that them needing it? Players will try and get most money they can, I reckon we are all the same if we had a chance to get an extra $30k majority of us are taking it."
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Need a decent hooker and 5/8 in case Brown goes elsewhere.
CE, you realise we have a good back up for DB who if he does go it will be next year.
Volkman is an outstanding young player, I could not imagine us picking up someone at his level that is better or has more progression at this point. Further to that the strategic back up's all offer flexibility in the sense of 5/8. i.e. Joash Pappillii.
The hooker become's a different proposition but we have some confidence in Hands going to another level and Rylley Smith emerging.....
I really want us to not jump into forwards yet. I'd want to release 2-3 more of our forwards. I wanna see who steps up, and in which position in the forwards.
Pass! I prefer to develop our juniors. Tuivita apparently had a good running battle with junior. Hazelton is a bench forward at this stage of his career. Not worth the money.
Only issue with prioritising juniors is no guarantee they're up to the standard. How many times has there been a talent that everyone says is the real deal, come NRL they are average at best. Hazelton has shown he is NRL quality. Ofa is off-contract this year, Paulo and Matto next year. Willams and Moretti signed til 2027 but we need more and better middles. Tuivaiti could be good pairing with Ryda Talagi in 2027-2028, but we need experienced younger talent.
Looks like will be dragons bound anyways. Back with flano
Depends what Ryles wants out of his middles to me Hazelton is another big guy who lacks lateral agility.
Its a hard one this but if I'm a head coach now I'm looking for athletic middles.It's the big reason why Junior and William look so trim this off season to get the more mobility back in the middle.We can't carry to many big guys anymore the games just moving away from those types and if guys like Junior and others can't match that part of the game around agility and mobility in the middle they'll be history too.
I agree with you Coryn, right down to the athletic aspects of our middles.
I would be surprised if Ryles would be interested in Hazelwood, especially when he is probably on about 300 a season, which is his right sort of price.
Pass.
No better than what we currently have and demanding ridiculous money.
$400-$450k tops.
For the money quoted na, and I will keep banging the drum that we need no middles, not because we have amazing options, but because we have a weird mix now that needs to be streamlined before knowing what to add.
Not sure if Hazelton is what we need either anyway.
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