The media are out with pitchforks on Canterbury, with reports swirling that the squad are going cold on Cameron Ciraldo. The main reason is his hard nosed approach to coaching, main issue raised being the nine and half hour work days he demands, wanting players to be at the facility from 8-5:30. Added, a top 30 squad member had quit the club over mental health issues brought up by being forced to wrestle with 12 fellow players as punishment for being late to training and also the demands Ciraldo has placed on him and the club.
Now this is a big issue, but i wanted to bring it up as an overall topic. Does anyone here side with the coach or players? Tallis on NRL 360 mentioned the worse you do the harder you train, i agree with that. The actual time of being at the facility is a bit weird, as i understand mainly a normal office job is 9-5, so an extra hour and half more than them, yet plenty of people work longer hours for less money. Now, should Ciraldo be flexible at times to fit in with players lives such as children? Of course, but if he is then i do not see too much of an issue with this. In the 80's majority of players had second jobs, or footy was their second job. Peter Wynn was my mother's Maths teacher at high school, he would come into class limping all the time from playing. Have players gone soft? Or are we fans not taking into account other areas like how hard their job is on their bodies and the cutthroat nature of the job in that it is not stable?
It is great seeing Canterbury fall from grace, having a much better line-up in 2023 than 2022, yet get same amount of wins. Also, shows that there is no such thing as a sure fire coaching hire, Ciraldo i rated for years as a supercoach in waiting, though he has been really disappointing. Granted, he has had a lot of injuries but great coaches get most out of their squads and he has produced the worst defensive team in the competition.
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It really shows that Gus Gould doesn't obviously know what he's doing in the recruitment areas. Ciraldo appears like a bit of a dictator if what you say is true. Bit hard to judge after only 1 season and the players needing to build combinations. If they don't improve next season then there's obviously issues somewhere. However, when you consider the fact that Brad Arthur has been at the Eels for 10 years without a premiership it really makes you wonder 🤔. So what's the best ingredient for a successful NRL coach? A dictator or a people person? Isn't Bellamy a bit of both?
A man manager with good communication skills. Not sure what Ciraoldo is like but he's got 4 more years in bis contract to show what he's got. Maybe less if they don't improve...
Regardless, it's the Bulldogs so who cares!
Bellamy is a tirant but has the respect from doing the hard work with them. Same with BA, he would do sand dunes with the squad. It says a lot when players see their coach going through what they are.
Is Ciraldo doing same? But that of course does not work for everyone. It works at Melbourne as it has been embedded for that long it is expected, success in the club has made it an expectation.
Bennett is a real man manager, not all coaches are doesn't mean it works out.
Ciraldo is on a hiding to nothing and he is in charge; I don't really care about C'Bury but if he feels they need this then good and he has seen Cleary coach and I am sure he has taken elements with him.
The players do have it good with their CBA agreement and the top 30 are paid well for the job they do but its a sport and they put their bodies on the line each wk but its the job they wish to be in.
The players would not be physically training for that length of time all day and I am sure they would have other things to do - such as courses / video work / behind the scenes work / physio etc.
Of course, they have gym, then ball work, meetings, video sessions, breaks, media, physio, rehab etc. Not including stuff they do in their own time to stay fit also.
They should be starting at 6 am and training six days a week.
Wrestling 12 team mates at the same time is a bit rough though. But I hope he learned his lesson. Got to be cruel to be kind.
Reed Mahoney a couple of years ago told a journalist his schedule for the day. Now every player is different but he was at the facility at around 7am and left at 1pm and did additional work after that and would end his day at 7pm to sleep for the next morning.
Do not get me wrong, i would love the hours players want of less than say 8-9 hours work. But again, when this whole CBA thing was going on, people and media reiterrated time and time again the players are out of touch with the real world of their fans and this again demonstrates that they still are.
If they're training 9 hours a day five days a week you then have to throw in captain's run the day before matchday and then matchday itself is about 6-7 hours as they are generally at the ground 1.5-2 hours before kick off.
So you'd be looking at well in advance of 50 hours a week if that were the case.
It'd also be a pretty rare situation and they haven't specified if this was in-season or during the pre-season.
I know Parramatta often rans two a day training sessions during pre-season, but players often have time to themselves between morning and afternoon sessions unless they want to do extras.
But I'd also be interested to know what on earth they're doing for 9 hours a day. Most training sessions don't go longer than two hours.
LB i think you are a little out of touch mate - not sure who,if anyone, work a 9-5 job anymore, thats the 80's mate.
simple solution for the player - don't be late and you wont get punished, its a pretty simple equation. Thats a non-neogotiable in any pro or semi-pro sport - turn up on time ready to work, if you cant do that, you don't belong there or deserve to have a contract.
is the player tpj? makes you wonder doesn't it.
Well office jobs are still 9-5 maybe later. I was in the process of looking for jobs with in the DET, their hours in office are 9-5?
Not as many jobs are 9-5 but they are still around. Though hours are longer than what these players are being asked for most families.
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