Its up to the club to turn itself around on the field. We were heading in the right direction with a blip last week.
If you want in demand players when you havent proven youre a compeitiive side week to week you have to pay huge overs. Simple as that. If we get into bidding wars with top 6 teams we have to blow them out of the water which we're not prepared to do. If you want to go about it the way we are which is not blowing the budget or comprisiming the future then the signings have to be really smart to get us into the top 6 or so where sides are more attractive. I heard Ryles and the crew speaking about how theyd be willing to pay up for a marquee player who is a player who can come in and influence results straight away... Parra isn't getting one of them without breaking the bank. Its so important the on field upward trend continues this year with good coaching and development. Top 8 is a must with this recruitment strategy imo.
Barnett is probably signing the last contract of his career, and he's never won a comp. His choices are the defending premiers, who get all the advantages in the world to stay successful, or Parramatta.
We've got to do what Penrith did from 2018 and keep investing massively into local talent and retain the crop of them.
Also, there is something seriously wrong with Mark O'Neill. Let's break the bank and prize Frank Ponissi out of Melbourne, or someone like him. O'Neill has too many failures on his report card to continue in the role and there doesn't appear to be any strategic direction when it comes to signing stablished players from elsewhere, other than, as others havbe pointed out, going for the ones no other clubs want or have had issues in the past.
So the Eels missed out on Barnett, and Keon K and Haas before him. Just how much of a tragedy those missed opportunities will be might be determined by what happens with the Eels' current prop protégés Tuivati and T. Brown? Even though the Eels were rolled through the middle vs Storm, I still think the Eels' big hole in R&R is the threadbare nature of their outside back threats.
Yep Joel, I agree that the signing was a big risk, 3 years showed our desperation and he didn't even entertain it, it was always Brisbane.
There is something happening from beginning negotiations to signing on dotted line that players do not like. If it is performance, well Keaon didn't think so. Ryles? Galvin loved him. Facilities? Voted 2nd best in comp by players.
MON and Rogers need to be looked at. Knowing our luck they sack MON and hire Rogers.
An extra year should have gotten him but also he wanted a premiership. As to why the Warriors in return wanted a player as they knew he was leaving for one more than anything.
But at the same time, is this where Ryles demands some investigation into MON and Rogers?
No great to miss another big signing, but I also wasn't looking forward to having 3 middles in their mid 30's. Our ruck is already slow, it could have gotten worse.
After this, the R&R team need to be punted as they're unable to get these signings over the line.
what team do you support Adam, because you have an interesting take on it, that i'd like to understand. My opinion is, if it's the coach we trust and the coach that we want, isn't it at least a bit off putting to you that so many players that he has wanted and were available, and the R&R chased hard to sign, have not signed with us. I'd love to hear how you see it, as you have no issues with R&R. I'm genuinely interested in the other side of the debate.
"That's a shame. I wasn't really sold on him due to his age unless he was replacing Junior or Hopgood for a year or 2 max but then this came up on my feed and he was smashing Nathan Brown.
It was when he was young but even when Brown played for us…"
"He can still move Samrani onto the wing and Simonsson plays Centre. Just cause he is named there doesn't mean he plays it.
How many times did Moretti get named to start on an edge then in game Williams is on the edge and Moretti is in the middle?…"
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Its up to the club to turn itself around on the field. We were heading in the right direction with a blip last week.
If you want in demand players when you havent proven youre a compeitiive side week to week you have to pay huge overs. Simple as that. If we get into bidding wars with top 6 teams we have to blow them out of the water which we're not prepared to do. If you want to go about it the way we are which is not blowing the budget or comprisiming the future then the signings have to be really smart to get us into the top 6 or so where sides are more attractive. I heard Ryles and the crew speaking about how theyd be willing to pay up for a marquee player who is a player who can come in and influence results straight away... Parra isn't getting one of them without breaking the bank. Its so important the on field upward trend continues this year with good coaching and development. Top 8 is a must with this recruitment strategy imo.
Snottie, you've hit the nail on the head.
Barnett is probably signing the last contract of his career, and he's never won a comp. His choices are the defending premiers, who get all the advantages in the world to stay successful, or Parramatta.
We've got to do what Penrith did from 2018 and keep investing massively into local talent and retain the crop of them.
Also, there is something seriously wrong with Mark O'Neill. Let's break the bank and prize Frank Ponissi out of Melbourne, or someone like him. O'Neill has too many failures on his report card to continue in the role and there doesn't appear to be any strategic direction when it comes to signing stablished players from elsewhere, other than, as others havbe pointed out, going for the ones no other clubs want or have had issues in the past.
So the Eels missed out on Barnett, and Keon K and Haas before him. Just how much of a tragedy those missed opportunities will be might be determined by what happens with the Eels' current prop protégés Tuivati and T. Brown?
Even though the Eels were rolled through the middle vs Storm, I still think the Eels' big hole in R&R is the threadbare nature of their outside back threats.
It would've been a poor signing but the fact Mark O'Neil couldn't get another signing over the line is poor
When is he going to get sacked?
Yep Joel, I agree that the signing was a big risk, 3 years showed our desperation and he didn't even entertain it, it was always Brisbane.
There is something happening from beginning negotiations to signing on dotted line that players do not like. If it is performance, well Keaon didn't think so. Ryles? Galvin loved him. Facilities? Voted 2nd best in comp by players.
MON and Rogers need to be looked at. Knowing our luck they sack MON and hire Rogers.
An extra year should have gotten him but also he wanted a premiership. As to why the Warriors in return wanted a player as they knew he was leaving for one more than anything.
But at the same time, is this where Ryles demands some investigation into MON and Rogers?
No great to miss another big signing, but I also wasn't looking forward to having 3 middles in their mid 30's. Our ruck is already slow, it could have gotten worse.
After this, the R&R team need to be punted as they're unable to get these signings over the line.
Brisbane offered an extra year it seems.
Other than Pezet, I don't have issue with our recruitment/retention performance.
what team do you support Adam, because you have an interesting take on it, that i'd like to understand. My opinion is, if it's the coach we trust and the coach that we want, isn't it at least a bit off putting to you that so many players that he has wanted and were available, and the R&R chased hard to sign, have not signed with us. I'd love to hear how you see it, as you have no issues with R&R. I'm genuinely interested in the other side of the debate.
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